Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phineas Pratt


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  08:06, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Phineas Pratt

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Notable things that this person did are: 1)documented the status of the first wessagusset settlement. He was one of the first settlers in US, but is NOT in the first batch of settlers that arrived in the ship Mayflower. Other than that, I dont find anything notable. His works should belong as a reference in the Wessagusset settlement page, I don't think he needs a standalone article. Daiyusha (talk) 06:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 12:00, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep- Phineas Pratt is a significant actor in the history of the Wessagusett and Plimoth settlements (he joined Plimoth in 1623 when there were only 32 homes) and both his first-hand account and his later petition/will are of note. Also notable in that he warned Plimoth colony of a potential oncoming attack and was a catalyst for Standish's advance on the Sachems of Wessagusset as well as leaving one of the few extant participant accounts of the time. He has a dedicated page and two PDFs on the http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/ site, his account is included on Mayflowerhistory.com http://mayflowerhistory.com/primary-sources-and-books/ and http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/phineas_pratt.htm and he has a page on Plimoth.org https://www.plimoth.org/sites/default/files/media/pdf/pratt_phineas.pdf as well as the Winthrop Society pages. https://www.winthropsociety.com/doc_pratt.php. He is also included prominently in many books in addition to the monograph on him and his descendants: 1)Robert C. Anderson. The Pilgrim Migration. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2004. 2) George Bowman. “Phineas Pratt of Charlestown.” Mayflower Descendant 4(3): 129–140. 1902. 3) Jayne P. Lovelace. The Pratt Directory. Rev. ed. Chandler, Ariz.: Ancestor House, 1995. 4)Robert S. Wakefield, ed. Plymouth: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1994., 5) Eugene A. Stratton. Plymouth Colony: Its History and People, 1620–1691. Salt Lake City:Ancestry Publishing, 1986. and 6) Levermore, C. H. 1856-1927. (1912). Forerunners and competitors of the Pilgrims and Puritans. Brooklyn, N.Y.: Pub. for the Society. Darcyjae ( talk) 8:45 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Prominently mentioned at length in several sources, such as pages 49-50 of The Genealogical Magazine, published in 1902, A Declaration of the Affairs of the English People that First Inhabited New England, published in 1858; the monograph about him and his descendents already in the article; The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volumes 28-29 (see here); the The Macdonough-Hackstaff ancestry, and A Weymouth Story.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:57, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Cabayi (talk) 09:26, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability and WP:RS is demonstrated just by the page on the Pilgrim Hall Museum website, alone. We're talking about someone living over 300 years ago, not some modern-day minor TV or sports personality, so easily written about by today's online newspapers. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - In my opinion, it is the usual rule that someone who lived in the nineteenth or earlier century about whom there are reliable written records is notable, and this person is notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Keith Henson (talk) 05:41, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep a clear pass of WP:GNG -- good references for such a unique time period. WOW, great job!--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:30, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


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