Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phonoscope Communications


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus -- Y not? 15:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Phonoscope Communications

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Seems like an advertisement of the company. Lot of COI and POV Amit (talk) 04:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak delete? I'm not sure what the bar to be met here is. The company appears in numerous business directories and similar works, and also promoted a semi-notable press event. Seems no more or less notable that other mid-tier providers. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The bar to be met is WP:GNG or WP:CORP. Dricherby (talk) 10:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Theopolisme ( talk )  04:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete G-books mention the company in several publications, but I can't find anything substantial in reliable and independent sources. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I have rewritten the page to address POV complaints. I believe more information, which would help to cement notability, can be added over time by other Houstonians. Mike Richardson (talk) 09:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Update: I decided to look into Phonoscope's distance learning endeavors and found this story from Galveston Daily News. (you can download a PDF directly from here). A newspaper would seem to qualify to be a reliable and published source without much argument. The establishment of a two way videotelephone system in 1962 for distance education seems notable to me. Perhaps some technological details could be discovered over time by others. Mike Richardson (talk) 09:08, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Mike Richardson's edit of the article has dealt with the POV and advertisement issues, which were never a reason for deletion in the first place (WP:NOTCLEANUP). I think the company is just about notable. There's the full-length article in the Houston Business Journal (cited in the article), which is about the founder Lee Cook but gives lots of information about the company, along with plenty of less-detailed mentions in computing and general publications. As an aside, the early provision of distance learning for the Galveston school board (mentioned in the HBJ article) would make a very interesting section, if anyone can find out more about it. Dricherby (talk) 10:34, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.