Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Photography as an art form

Looks like a copyvio, but Google turns up nothing. No internal links. Looks like someone's school essay. I don't think there's anything worthwhile here. grendel|khan 05:38, 2004 Aug 27 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fuzheado | Talk 12:22, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: No original research, although this is very, very well written (suspiciously so, perhaps). Geogre 12:53, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Send to cleanup, I think. It seems like a valid topic. I continue to find that Wikipedia searches are sucky, but I figured any decent article on this topic would contain the word Stieglitz and Google searching in Wikipedia on Stieglitz didn't turn up any real pay dirt, so I think this is the only article we have on this subject. Someone already linked it in the Photography article. I can't think of any better title for such an article. I dislike this article intensely. For starters, it doesn't mention Alfred Stieglitz. Or Pictorialism. Or F. Holland Day. It is written in an "original research" style and is at least 80% original reseearch. And, yeah, I wonder about its being a possible copyright violation. But I still am thinking X-Treme cleanup, not deletion. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:31, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the Bauhaus folks (Moholahagy Naggy, whose name I just butchered, e.g.) or "The Defining Moment," etc., either, but I wasn't looking that hard, because I was looking at it in terms of original research. Geogre 15:25, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, me, I don't know boo about the history of photography or photographic aesthetics. On thinking some more, what's needed is so much cleanup, as replacement with a good stub. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 15:58, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)BTW did you mean "The Decisive Moment" as in Henri Cartier-Bresson?? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:09, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * D'oh! I'm sure I messed up the Bauhaus photographer's name, too.  (Kicking brain.) Geogre 21:16, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Aha. Duncharris has noted in the History that he removed a signature &#8212; a name &#8212; from the foot of the page. The article was originally signed "Arnold Perey, PhD". Arnold Perey's doctoral thesis in anthropology was about Aesthetic Realism, and a Wikipedia user Aperey did the posting, first as anon IP, see article History. OK, we can surely take it that Dr. Perey both wrote and posted the text, so it's not copyvio. But it is original research, maybe from his thesis. Bishonen 16:35, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * A dissertation that was reviewed and its author awarded a degree is certainly more peer-reviewed than most of what is in here. I haven't really looked at this, but I'm guessing there should at least be material worth mining. Maybe he can move it to his user area & start mining it? -- Jmabel 22:24, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but what's needed is a straightforward presentation of the whole subject, not a personal examination of selected aspects of it. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 22:52, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep and make less essay-like. -Sean Curtin 00:20, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * How? Sean, you need to give some vote here.  Either keep it all or send it to clean up or merge & redirect or delete.  I'd almost like to see it go to a kind of Wikisource staging area.  It's good, but it's not encyclopedic.  Geogre 22:55, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * It isn't now, but it's got the bones of a good article. -Sean Curtin 06:08, Aug 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge what little information there is with photography and delete&mdash;this is little more than the intro to a personal essay at present, and it's a topic that needs to be included under the main photography article. Little use as a redirect.  Postdlf 22:24, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete personal essay. Rossami 22:44, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: personal essay. But the author should be encouraged to write something other than an essay on this topic. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:21, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)Wile E. Heresiarch 14:26, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)