Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pia Arhar


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The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Pia Arhar

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The one source her is a primary source, Wikipedia is meant to be based on secondary sources. My previous proposed deletion tag was removed on the grounds that I had not shown any search for sources, but no indication that person had either, or even understood what Wikipedia is supposed to be. I did a search for sources and came up with unuseable non-reliable stuff like Youtube videos and Wikipedia mirrors. I was not even able to come up with one reliable secondary source. I can see no way to bring this article to a state of meeting the GNG, so it needs to be deleted. John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  12:26, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Slovenia-related deletion discussions.  ~ Amkgp  💬  14:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The reference link does not work (competing at the highest level is a proof of notability, though, if it can be sourced). I found some Slovenian references that she was crowned Miss Sport in 2008, but that is not a particularly notable achievement. I'd say delete unless it can be properly sourced. --Tone 16:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete; Its WP:TOOSOON. -Hatchens (talk) 03:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments It's not too soon--she's 30 years old, so she's not going to get more notable as a gymnast. More importantly, I have corrected the link to her bio  at the FIG website.  It shows she did compete at the world championships, although she wasn't close to making the finals (which is what the FIG uses to declare someone a "world class gymnast").  The notability criteria at WP:NSPORT specifically state the criteria only for artistic gymnasts, not rhythmic ones, so I don't know whether or not the same criteria apply.  Even if the same criteria apply, that only carries a presumption of notability and my search for coverage didn't find enough to show WP:GNG is met.  However, that doesn't mean Slovenian sources don't exist.  I'm leaning towards a delete, but I am waiting to see the opinions of others now that her results can be viewed by all.  I'll admit I'm far more familiar with martial arts, where just competing at a world championship does not grant notability (even for Olympic sports like judo). Papaursa (talk) 15:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D My Son  04:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete It's been a week since I posted my previous comment and no one has presented any evidence that shows WP:BASIC is met.  Combined with the fact that my search didn't find significant independent coverage, I don't think finishing 83rd in the world rhythmic gymnastics championships is enough to grant automatic WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


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