Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Picnic (1966 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Picnic (1966 film)

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Article about a film. No evidence of notability per WP:GNG. - MrX 15:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. - MrX 15:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. - MrX 15:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I am seeing this film mentioned briefly here and there in Google Books search results. Since this film is older, non-English, and not of high notability, we may need to depend on published sources for this film, rather than online ones. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 15:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. If this film's notability is established by offline sources, then the contributor can add those sources, either now or in a better-sourced re-iteration of the article later.  David.thompson.esq (talk) 17:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * There is not a need to rush to delete. This was just nominated today, and we should allot time for sources to be found, either by the article creator or others who may know where to look. That's why I only commented instead of taking a stance at this point. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:08, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for now and draft and userfy if needed as I simply see no obvious better improvement. Pinging, , , , , ,  and .  SwisterTwister   talk  04:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although I am keen in knowing more about this movie, unfortunately this still needs to go since there are no reliable sources to establish notability. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk)  05:01, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * title and director:
 * title and year only:
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 * WP:INDAFD: "Picnic (1966)" "Shaheed Latif"

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Consensus to delete but relist to give more time for stone age sources to be found. Perhaps a trip to an indian library might solve this. Spartaz Humbug! 19:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thanks for the ping. Appears that this is yet another pre-internet Indian film with multiple Indian notables which has nade it into the enduring record of books but does not have (the strangely expected) enduring newspaper coverage 40 years after it was first released. My searches find a few sources for verification, but nothing substantial archived anywhere. Perhaps there are Indian Wikipedians with copies of 40-year-old Indian newspapers stashed away? Working now to improve the stub  contributed minutes before being nominated. I hope the new author/contributor will not take offense and be chased away by the quick rejection of his contribution. Cheers,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 07:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I was unable to find any reliable source online to constitute notability. In most cases, if the film was a significant one, we would find something interesting mentioned in Google books search results or at some articles on the old cinema. I am hardly able to find little mentions of the film which isn't enough. There might be some notable facts about the film published in offline sources back then and if the facts had been really notable, we would find at least some glimpse of it online. Since this film was released in 1966, even if this were a notable one, I doubt if we would be able to prove that. It's a tough task to find offline sources for topics that were even moderately notable 50 years ago. Though the film might have been in the talks enough to meet WP:NFILM, it will take time to find sources to prove that. We could move it to AfC perhaps where the article could be shaped better. Right now, it doesn't meet NFILM.  Yash!  08:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for now: Such films are maybe notable at that time but some old films are lost in history so we don't get sources for them in today's era. But if anyone finds more reliable sources (maybe offline or any encyclopedia of Indian films) then this article should be recreated. -- Human 3015   TALK   12:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)del
 * Inclined to Keep given the improbability of finding any coverage of such a film by our usual internet-only look for sources. This is producing WP:RECENTISM in this area. Nobody disputes the film was made and released, and it is unlikely that adequate sources such as reviews don't in fact exist. Johnbod (talk) 16:56, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Two hours after being created and then nominated. There won't be many sources for a film from 1966. Filpro (talk) 04:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Articles does not meets the WP:GNG nor it can be improved further due to lack of WP:RS. —  San ska ri  Hangout 08:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Strongly Keep - The article has a lots of real infos collecting data from reliable websites. You can't expect more informations about a 1966 film at the Internet. I think this is a amazing article. thinking of deleting this is a bull shit. Keep This. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azad71 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 30 October 2015‎
 * Keep Thanks for the ping User:SwisterTwister. I've done some searches on the film. A few sources can be found, but of course internet sources will be harder to find for a 1966 Indian film. I invoke WP:SYSTEMICBIAS in these circumstances. Article has been improved since nomination AusLondonder (talk) 10:18, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 19:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.