Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PictoChat

The result of the debate was no consensus [added by Andre🚐 22:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC) for afdstats]

Last I heard, Wikipedia is not a fortune-teller. Niteowlneils 16:54, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Attention: it's out now. Thus, everyone saying "futures" and such is wrong, now. Andre ( talk )A| 02:55, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)


 * This is a vote for the deletion of this yet-to-be-deleted article. It is likely that it wil be deleted once enough votes have been cast -- Ferkelparade 17:01, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, futures, does not exist. Promotional. WIkipedia is in no rush to document things, Wikipedia is not interested in being "first." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 21:00, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a vapourware directory. --Ianb 21:15, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. As of yet, non-notable. Skyler 21:57, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fallout IV is a program that will likely be really cool, if the company stays in business and the programmers keep coding and the public keeps buying.... Not an article. Geogre 00:23, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: Nobody edits/deletes it until they know it. WikiPediaAid 6:26 PM, Aug 12, 2004 (EDT)
 * Strong Keep: Maybe all of the articles for unreleased game hardware and software should be removed? Nintendo DS, PlayStation Portable, Super Mario 64x4, etc. etc.  It was demo'd at E³, and even has a page with screenshots on nintendo.com .  Sure, it's a bad entry, but just because it's not out yet doesn't mean it's delete-worthy. - Plutor 17:25, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)  Weak keep.  Mark my words, it'll be released and back within a year!  See also below. - Plutor 21:18, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do think articles for unreleased products should be deleted. Particularly when a product has been announced but not released, such an article verges on being promotional. Wikipedia should not be a vehicle for dissemination of preannouncements. There's no rush; we're not a news source and we're not trying to scoop anyone. But if you don't agree with me, maybe you should weigh in with your opinion at What's in, what's out.
 * Okay, thinking about it a little more calmly, I can agree that with future products, notability is probably more important with future than existing products. For instance, the Segway article was created just after the product's unveiling (and official naming), but the first ones weren't available for delivery until 15 months later!   I'm not arguing that PictoChat is quite as notable, but rather that the What's in, what's out page is a bit too broad. - Plutor 21:18, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - current content is an unverifiable future event (with the key unverifiable point being its notability). Comment: Some of the other articles that Plutor sites might be eligible for nomination under the same criteria. It is, however, irrelevant.  We evaluate each nomination on a case by case basis. Rossami 20:58, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia articles are not supposed to be News reports. And that should cover promotional pieces written as though they are intended to used by media as News reports. Jallan 23:15, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * YOU EVIL SO-CALLED KNOW-IT-ALL VOTING PEOPLE OTHER THAN ME! You think you can delete PictoChat?! NOT YET! WikiPediaAid 4:16 PM (EDT) September 1, 2004
 * This is coming out in a number of weeks . Keep. Andre ( talk )A| 23:52, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, as long as the confusion on the protocol PictoChat uses ceases (it uses the proprietary protocol, not Wi-Fi). --Evice 21:16, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)