Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pieroth Family


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Pieroth Family

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While this article makes a credible claim that the Pieroth's wine empire is significant, and perhaps notable, it does not make a credible claim that the family itself is notable, in the same manner that the Rothschild family or the Kennedy family is notable. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:19, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - we have articles about lots of European families from the 17th century and I've worked on quite a few. The difference there, though, is that the families were noble houses or otherwise notable for particular reasons. There's nothing to indicate the family was notable then or is notable now and most of the article is sourced to the family's company's website. Stalwart 111  13:38, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - an article about the company could (maybe) be notable, but not one about the owners family history. The article is mostly a copy from http://www.pieroth.com/index.php?inhalt=history, it could go under CSD G12. --Ben Ben (talk) 15:47, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete The family tree picture is creepy. Logical Cowboy (talk) 21:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure that qualifies as a valid argument for deletion! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I have found one good source on the topic - however, this is part of a far longer description of the family's company, which is pretty certainly notable even ignoring (as this article does) its rather disastrous involvement in the 1985 diethylene glycol wine scandal. The family is, I would say, notable enough in the context of the company to warrant a section in an article on it, but probably not a standalone article. Also, one family member mentioned in the article, Elmar Pieroth, meets WP:POLITICIAN#1 and he, and perhaps some other family members, might well also meet WP:GNG for their business activities. PWilkinson (talk) 21:35, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
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