Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre St.-Jean


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep as this is enough to close (NAC). SwisterTwister  talk  22:52, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Pierre St.-Jean

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Delete: as non-notable weight-lifter. Quis separabit? 02:32, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Keep. Per below  S n o w  let's rap 06:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC) ( Delete. Does not appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:ATHLETE.  The mere two sources for this tiny stub are probably not RS and even if they are, the mention is incidental as best and does nothing to establish the level of notability necessary for an article.  Even the article doesn't suggest a notability higher than winning tenth in his weight class at the Olympics in 1968.  If some speculation can be forgiven, this seems like a WP:Vanity page made by someone who might know this gentleman and wanted to preserve mention of him here, or wanted to do something respectful for him.  But whatever the motive, I can't see an argument for being able to keep it, certainly not under present sourcing.  S n o w  let's rap 11:06, 19 March 2016 (UTC) )
 * Not sure about the second source you're referring to but the website of the International Olympic Committee is clearly a reliable source for the events of the Olympic Games.  Hut 8.5  16:54, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  13:30, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  13:30, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep the subject competed in the summer Olympic Games in 1964, 1968 and 1976, which is more than enough to pass WP:NOLYMPICS. Although it's not in the article he also won three medals at the Commonwealth Games (silver in 1962, gold in 1966 and bronze in 1970) and two bronze medals at the Pan American Games (1963 and 1967). It isn't hard to find contemporary press coverage of his career either -    etc. Granted the article isn't very long, but that is not a valid reason for deletion.  Hut 8.5  16:54, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well the newspapers do put a bit on the fence now. I just don't know if a few short pieces in some local papers really are sufficient to establish real, lasting notability. On the other hand, at least the articles are all about him, not just incidental mentions. Ehh...might swing my vote on this one based on the new sourcing.  Will think on it.  S n o w  let's rap 08:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * This is just what I found in a few minutes on Google News, there may well be other sources available in offline newspaper libraries. I wouldn't expect newspapers from the 1960s to be particularly freely available on the internet. WP:BIO doesn't actually distinguish between local/national coverage, and it looks like virtually all newspapers in Canada are local or regional so the distinction breaks down somewhat. The Montreal Gazette is one of the larger newspapers in the country. The subject does also meet the relevant subject-specific notability guideline.  Hut 8.5  10:58, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, alright, good enough. I'm still not doing cartwheels over any particular source, but putting all of the new material together, I guess it does collectively make at least a minimalist argument for notability.  Changing !vote.  S n o w  let's rap 06:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reconsidering.  Hut 8.5  20:37, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - multiple times an Olympian, even taking the Oath on behalf of the athlete's in 1976, plus a medallist at the Commonwealth Games. Comfortbly passes WP:NOLYMPICS and I'm sure with 30 seconds of searching would also pass WP:GNG - Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 22:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


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