Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pig mask (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Saw (film series). While the consensus is clearly for merge, there is some disagreement on the target. However, that becomes an editing issue, not an AfD issue. Fabrictramp |  talk to me  17:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Pig mask
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Fascinating stuff, and very well-written and comprehensive; however, this is all just plot summary. I see no evidence that this is more notable than any other plot device in any other movie. The only thing this has going for it is that it was made into 3 toys, but I can't find evidence that those themselves are notable, and they don't meet either of the WP:TOY criteria.

Also nominating these:
 * - from the same series, about the theme music. Really? How is that notable at all?
 * - This isn't necessarily a delete - I think this could be included in the Saw (film) article, as all it is now is a large chunk of plot summary. Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  00:17, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge I would have originally said Keep, but chances are that wouldn't get me anywhere. And even if this was kept, the odds are that it will be renominated at some point in the future. So...Pig Mask should be merged to Jigsaw Killer, Hello Zepp to Saw (film series) and Saw (2003 film) to Saw (film).--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity; how would you merge Hello Zepp into anything? The article is one massive chunk of OR/plot summary. Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  17:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment if merged, there should be no redirect because "pig mask" is a generic term. The history should be moved to a subpage, and pig mask should be a redlink. If kept, the article should be renamed for the same reason. (say Pig mask in Saw or something) 70.55.200.131 (talk) 04:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per CyberGhostface. AlexTiefling (talk) 10:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't like the way these three articles are bundled together into one AFD. The issues for each article are different so really there are three seperate conversations happening in the same place. I really think the nom should withdraw their nomination and renom each article seperately.Nrswanson (talk) 10:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * They're not that different at all, though. Each one is a huge chunk of unnecessary plot summary that shouldn't have an article; whether or not people think that they should be merged is their choice, but I only see one as having a slight possibility of being merged. Oh, and you guys know that you can cast a different vote for each one, right? You don't have to apply a blanket vote. Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  17:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge as per CGF, if the three articles are to be considered as a single entry. However, Nrswanson is correct -- bundling these three very different articles into a single AfD makes little sense, and even the nominator acknowledges one of them doesn't really deserve to be considered for deletion. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - But I disagree with CyberGhostface about the pig mask being merged into Jigsaw's character article. Only because the mask has been worn by more characters. I think the pig mask should be merged with the Billy puppet article - as they are both the iconic inanimate objects of the franchise. Noting that the person who nominated this for deletion acknowledged that there is some degree of significance of their being products released based on the pig mask. Pig mask and Billy the puppet should be merged based on them both being the inanimate icons of the franchise. Yeldarb68 (talk) 04:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - Per CyberGhostFace.  &mdash; neuro(talk) 13:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge Per above. Great article, but should be part of the Saw article. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 13:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


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