Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pinching Penny


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. (Soft delete, minding low participation.) czar ⨹   13:04, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Pinching Penny

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This is another Dan Glaser related article. Initially I wasn't going to nominate it since the film did appear to be notable and I'd originally been planning to clean up the article and remove all of the non-usable blog and otherwise self-published sources that can't be used to show notability or even used as a trivial source. However after I cleaned the article out and tried searching for usable sources, I ended up finding that the film just isn't that notable. I found one review from Flickering Myth, but nothing else that I could consider usable. I'd originally thought the Indie Fest review would be usable, but a look at their awards section on their website shows that they're the type of film festival where they hold 3-4 festivals a year and give out hundreds of awards each year- meaning that the award wouldn't be the type that would give any notability per Wikipedia's guidelines. If anyone can find coverage I'm open for compromise. Now I do need to state that I've cleaned out the article and removed a lot of sections, so you can find the previous version of the article here. Almost none of the sources were the type that would make a difference here and I kept the halfway usable sources in the current version of the article, but the sources are pretty much self-published, merchant, primary, or otherwise unusable for the purposes of notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   01:27, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment - notability of the film will depend on if any of the various reviews can be considered a reliable source. Hopefully a WP:WikiProject Film regular can provide some insight.  --ThaddeusB (talk) 18:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * If any of them can find more reviews or coverage (or just make a really good argument for inclusion) I'm open to keeping this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; kikichugirl  speak up! 05:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete. With some degree of reservation, I'd be willing to consider Flickering Myth a reliable source.  However, that's about all that's here.  I don't see any evidence that the Moviepie.com review is from a staff reviewer or even that the site isn't self-published.  There's really no information at all there.  Indiefest does seem notable, but I'm not convinced that an award is enough to save this article.  What NFILM means by a "major award" is open to interpretation, but in my mind, it would include a citation to a third-party reliable source.  The Moorhead citation looks like a classic press release, so I'm discounting that.  I don't see any evidence that third party reliable sources have made the effort to report on this award, which does make it seem a bit trivial.  I'll admit that there's room for argument here. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:32, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.