Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pine Middle School shooting


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Keep in some form. Whether or not it should be merged, and if so what the target should be, is one for talk-page discussion. Consensus is that this material should be kept in some form/location. StarM 04:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Pine Middle School shooting

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This article does not meet the standards of notability. It was a shooting that occurred two and a half years ago at a middle school, and there is not an adequate amount of information needed to be used for this article. The article has no place anywhere here except for the list of school attacks. Cyanidethistles {Tim C} 06:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I am unsure why two and a half years ago and at a middle school have anything to do with the question of notability. Kingturtle (talk) 13:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - notability demonstrated in sources the usual way. I see no reason to treat this as such an exceptiona case that the usual guidelines should not be followed. Wily D  15:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to school shooting. I am glad that this did not turn into fatalities, vigils, anniverary observances, memorials, etc.  Part of the usual way for notability is that there is still significant coverage outside the immediate timeframe.  Mandsford (talk) 18:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to both school shooting and list of school attacks. TerriersFan (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 20:14, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nevada-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Merge to list of school attacks. No content that explains notability, certainly not deserving of an independent article, unless Wikipedia has a policy that "all school shootings are notable" which I am not aware of. Theseeker4 (talk) 16:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to list of school attacks. Theres no reason to have its own individual article, but would be notable enough to put it in as a school attack. Hairy  Perry  17:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think merging alone would do it justice (its already in the school shootings article anyway and most other school shootings are linked to separate articles as well, so this one should be too). I found even more sources on it:     .  Notable from these and the included sources and should maintain its own article in addition to its listing on the list of school shootings. --Banime (talk) 12:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Well, for one thing: I had heard of it before I saw this AfD, already a fairly good indication of WP:NOTE.  Anyway, there are reliable sources.  It doesn't matter that it happened 2.5 years ago.  Otherwise, you could argue that the article on (insert popular movie here) should be deleted because it came out 2.5 years ago.  Anyway, notable, keep. David WS  (contribs)  14:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I had to remove a great deal of the text due to copyright infringement issues, and now the article is a tiny stub. The article needs some major editing and writing. Kingturtle (talk) 14:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep .The age of the shooting is no problem,we cover back to the beginning of time. Nor is the level of the school. The only question is whether it meets our notability standards without anyone being killed. I think even without that, such shootings are notable, and of more than temporary news value. DGG (talk) 07:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.