Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pingoatuk Kolola


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:03, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Pingoatuk Kolola

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I believe this does not meet Notability (people) requirement for a stand alone article. The actual shooting does not even merit an article. Also violates Biographies of living persons. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 00:31, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - per sources, per extensive coverage. WP:ONEEVENT is irrelevant if the event is notable. Most of the crime articles are one event. ONEEVENT also does not apply as the subject has had as I stated above extensive coverage.--BabbaQ (talk) 07:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. ONEEVENT is not "irrelevant if the event is notable", nor is it incompatible with "most of the crime articles" — if an event is notable, then we keep an article about the event, not a standalone WP:BLP of every individual person involved in it. That fact is precisely why most of the crime articles are titled "Murder of [Victim]" rather than "[Name of Murderer]". The number of sources actually being cited here is far from "extensive" — four sources isn't that extensive to begin with, even before you notice that two of the four are deadlinks whose content is unverifiable. You could cite two, three or four news articles about every single murder that ever happened at all, but that doesn't make a biography of every single murderer in the history of human death appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia — for our purposes, a murder is notable if it had significant long-term aftereffects, such as a new law being named after the victim to address loopholes where existing law was significantly inadequate to the situation (frex, Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act — note that even our articles about the Shepard and Byrd murders are titled for the victims, not the killers), and is not automatically eligible for inclusion just because the WP:ROUTINE amount of coverage that a murder would be expected to generate verifies the fact that it happened. But nothing here demonstrates that this murder meets our actual notability standard for murders in any identifiable way. And I'd also note that the nominator lives in Nunavut, and therefore his reading of whether a murder that happened in Nunavut is permanently notable or not carries a lot of weight in a discussion like this. If BabbaQ really feels that this is notable enough, he's certainly welcome to try for a Murder of Douglas Scott article instead — but it would have to cite significantly more sources and contain significantly more substance than this does. Bearcat (talk) 15:50, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:22, 15 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:14, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Still have not seen a good rationale for deletion. This is clearly a notable article. ONEEVENT is irrelevant as stated above. BabbaQ (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Nunavut has a high murder rate (%) but this tends to translate into 6 a year so they tend to get a lot of coverage. Here's one from Cambridge Bay and this has a large amount of coverage. The amount of coverage does not equal notability. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Forgot this. A general search for Cape Dorset shooting. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete clear case of WP:BLP1E. I've !voted for keeping articles of murderers in the past, but that is when the crime is notorious and their actions surrounding it have somehow garnered them notability other than just being the mere perpetrator of a crime. This is not the case here, so there is no need for the article. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:01, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


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