Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Piruz Dilenchi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Buck  ets  ofg 16:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Piruz Dilenchi

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Nominated for process - this was previously listed for speedy deletion under db-bio. I have untagged it for speedy as this is clearly inappropriate in this case, since the article clearly asserts notability as both a singer, writer and politician. The article was also tagged as unreferenced, which seems a little unfair as there were quite a number of references - just not correctly added. I've tidied up the "references" section (slightly) as the same time to make it clearer.

There does seem to be confusion over the spelling of his name, with four different spellings used in the article alone - I recognise that this is due to transliteration from a non-Roman alphabet, but if the !vote results in keep a number of redirects will need to be set up. I've not yet done this as it will just mean more work for the closing admin if there's a Delete result.

The AfD discussion for this article's "sister" article is also currently underway, for the record.

Although I'm nominating this for process, my personal !vote as the article currently stands is weak keep although if kept it will need to be tidied up. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  09:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Keep The person is notable enough for an article. Grandmaster 09:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Strong Keep If this guy isn't notable, whilst obscure college basketball players apparently are, then that says something rather unflattering about Wikipedia. StuartDouglas 12:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Delete still I don' see any authenticate third party source for his notability. --Pejman47 16:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * comment I think part of the problem in Googling him is that his name's spelt four or five different ways, as per Stuart Douglas above I think it does look silly if we delete political party/terrorist group (delete to taste) leaders whilst keeping 1930s cricketers. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  17:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * please only talk just about this article or WP policies, and do not excuse his un-notability with weak reasoning (all the name of people which is originally in Arabic, can be translated to English in several versions) and you didn't even mentioned the "different versions" of his name. I am going to feel that you have a very strong POV and are going to push it on this kind of articles.--Pejman47 19:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * But why is he not notable? If google is the criterion, see this: Alternative spellings also get plenty of hits. To me it looks like some people try to suppress the info about this person and his organization. I understand that there can be different views on this person, but it is not a reason to delete the article. On the contrary, we should reflect all positions in a neutral manner. Grandmaster 19:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Pejman47, I assume that "you have a very strong POV" was aimed at me since it immediately followed my comment. I have no POV whatsoever on this, I couldn't point to Azerbaijan on a map and have no idea why you would think I do. Assume good faith... -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  20:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * weak keep leader of South Azerbaijan National Liberation Movement  from 1994 to 1999. is notable, AfD is not a place for political arguments (at least i think it's not supposed to be) and this can be avoided by keeping to the principle that all political movements that can be shown to actually exist and have a name are notable. DGG 22:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletions.   --   &rArr; bsnowball  14:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment User:Ali doostzadeh has deleted all references from this article - I've (temporarily) reverted them until this AfD discussion is complete as otherwise this will erupt into an edit war. -  Irides centi   (talk to me!)  15:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * and someone's deleted them again... I have wasted way too much time on this page that could be spent writing about important subjects like Welsh goth singers and emergency service call centres to waste any more time on this, but the unvandalised version of the page is here. -   Irides centi   (talk to me!)  19:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Strong Keep. I think this information is very important. Because Piruz Dilanchi is a famous person in Iran and Azerbaijan. I research about him.
 * Keep. His name is mentioned in a report by the United Nations Refugee Agency UNHCR and also in a paper published by The Jamestown Foundation .Heja Helweda 05:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable enough.--Mardavich 06:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You can see these links. All are about Piruz Dilanchi:

President of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev and leader of SANLM Pirouz Dilanchi (http://www.azerbaijanonline.biz/prezident-azerbaijan.jpg)

http://www.unhcr.org/home/RSDCOI/3df4be444.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/middle_east/594537.stm

http://www.rferl.org/newsline/2004/09/290904.asp

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/1999/2-110199.html

http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=1&issue_id=4&article_id=71

http://www.iwpr.net/?p=crs&s=f&o=161996&apc_state=henicrs9fbf0e8ca3f19db2320364d6ccfd21e4

http://www.hri.org/cgi-bin/brief?/news/balkans/omri/1996/96-09-10.omri.html

http://www.eurasianet.org/resource/azerbaijan/links/1103hr.html

http://www.hri.org/news/balkans/rferl/1999/99-01-08.rferl.html

http://www.hri.org/cgi-bin/brief?/news/balkans/rferl/1999/99-01-08.rferl.html

http://mediapress.media-az.com/arxiv/2000/Aug_eng/3.html

http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/chapters/0262194775index1.pdf

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/election/azerbaijan/report1011.shtml

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8334603069973996958

http://azer.secure-shops9.com/product.asp?itemid=136&catid=31

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/comsite5/bin/pdinventory.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=2930&purchase_type=ITM&item_id=0286-11376605

http://www.iranian.com/Times/2000/Jana/Roodbar/rights.html

http://www.iranian.com/Times/2000/Jana/Roodbar/news.html

http://www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5066

http://www.yusif.org/azerbaijan.html

http://www.privatesozluk.com/show.asp?m=piruz+dilenchi

http://cssaame.com/issues/20/Samii.pdf


 * Keep. (And do some redirects for the variant spellings.) It took me a bit to find him in that mess of sites, because his name is Romanised as Dilanchi, Dilenchi, Dilançi, & Dilenchy. I think I saw a 'Pirouz' for his first name once as well. However, at one of those sites, http://www.iranian.com/Times/2000/Jana/Roodbar/news.html, I found a Reuters report that referred to him as "Piruz Dilenchy, head of the National Liberation Movement of Southern Azerbaijan." That's easily notable enough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ventifax (talk • contribs) 08:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC). Opps. yes, that's me. Ventifax 22:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


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