Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pittsburgh Black Sox


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The result was Delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Pittsburgh Black Sox

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Non-notable semi-professional baseball team. The team is a member of the National Adult Baseball Association, which runs about 100 leagues nation-wide, and this appears to be the only team affiliated with that organization to have its own Wikipedia article. I found 19 google hits, most of which are to Wikipedia or its mirrors or to an old Negro League team with the same name. There were two newspaper articles: one in the South Hills Record, which appears to be a suburban weekly, and one in the major metropolitan newspaper, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (references appear at bottom of article). No evidence, however, that any newspaper regularly covers the team. These two articles, by themselves, don't provide enough information from independent, reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. BRMo (talk) 19:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.   —BRMo (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Definitely not a professional organization. The team doesn't deserve it's own page and I even question if the league itself is notable. Spanneraol (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is up-to-date and organized. Whoever updates the page seems committed to keeping it accurate. "The team is a member of the National Adult Baseball Association, which runs about 100 leagues nation-wide" certainly sounds legitimate. One hundred leagues nation-wide means that lots of people "nation-wide" are involved with this. Perhaps more teams and leagues like this would enter their information if they came across this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.146.120 (talk) 01:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Actually, there are more articles concerning this league on Wikipedia: [], [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.146.120 (talk) 01:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please note that the anon editor has voted twice.


 * The large number of leagues and teams involved in the National Adult Baseball Association makes it more likely that any individual team is non-notable, because there is limited coverage of any individual league or team. Are any of these leagues or teams regularly covered by newspapers or television/radio media?  More importantly for this discussion, is there any evidence that the Pittsburgh Black Sox receive more than an occasional mention in the press? Wikipedia guidelines are clear that "teams and leagues" should not be entering their own information!  The information has to be verifiable by coming from independent, reliable sources.  Also, the existence of other Wikipedia articles on related topics does not establish notability.  For example, Little League Baseball is a notable organization, but no individual Little League team is sufficiently notable to merit its own article. BRMo (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


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