Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pizzeria Venti (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Lacking enough references with both independence and depth to satisfy WP:NCORP. RL0919 (talk) 16:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Pizzeria Venti
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small non notable restaurant chain. refs are either general articles on pizza or annoucements of restaurant openings  DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:05, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:05, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I expanded the references, which now seem to be a mix of relevant news stories and reviews of individual restaurants. The company no longer maintains a website, preferring to use a Facebook page instead. I think notability is established through references from multiple reliable sources and from the fact that this chain emphasizes quality (with correspondingly higher prices) compared to other pizza chains. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Seems to have a sufficient number of reliable sources. Trillfendi (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Ktrimi991 (talk) 10:23, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:00, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Fails WP:SIGCOV is a upcoming small restaurant chain and does not appear to have even a website rare for a chain in the United States.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Bogus reasoning Keep !votes above I think notability is established through references from multiple reliable sources and from the fact that this chain emphasizes quality (with correspondingly higher prices) compared to other pizza chains. First, there must be multiple (ie at least two) sources that meet the criteria for establishing notability. So if one reference is in-depth (meets WP:CORPDEPTH) but is based on an interview with an owner (failed WP:ORGIND) and another reference is the opposite, is written by a journalist and contains Independent Content (meets WP:ORGIND) but only describes the pizza that is served in the restaurant (fails WP:CORPDEPTH), you don't combine both and say they count towards notability. Also, whether they emphasize quality has nothing to do with notability. An examination of the references in the article (and book) and the references mentioned in the previous AfD shows that not a single one meets the criteria for establishing notability. Most are based on announcements or interviews (fails ORGIND) or inclusions in a list or mentions-in-passing (fails CORPDEPTH). I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability - topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 19:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


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