Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Platform (Hindi movie)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The film exists, and stars well-known actors. The consensus is that this makes it notable. As an aside, as MichaelQSchmidt points out, there is a risk of systemic bias here. Many Indian newspapers and magazines do not have any online archives before the 2000s. With this being Tisca Chopra's debut, and a film starring Ajay Devgan, I would be surprised if offline resources were not available if a search was made. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 13:13, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Platform (Hindi movie)

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No evidence that it exists let alone that it is notable. &mdash; RHaworth 19:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable Dreamspy (talk) 07:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep... It's found to exist with a little bit of research. Trim the synopsis and add some sourcing. I have a difficult time believing that any Deepak Pawar film could be seen as non-notable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Exists and is notable. I have added a few sources. Shyamsunder (talk) 11:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ajay Devgn. Film is clearly non-notable. The film exists; yes. Doesn't qualify on GNG. Considering specific qualifying criteria WP:NF, my analysis is as follows:
 * 1) Has the film been widely distributed and has it received full length reviews by two or more nationally known critics? Widely distributed; perhaps (no RS available to prove that). And full length review, I'm yet to see one.
 * 2) Publication of at least two non-trivial articles, at least five years after the film's initial release? >> No!
 * 3) Was the film deemed notable by a broad survey of film critics, academics, or movie professionals, when such a poll was conducted at least five years after the film's release? No!
 * 4) Was the film given a commercial re-release, or screened in a festival, at least five years after initial release? No!
 * 5) Was the film featured as part of a documentary, program, or retrospective on the history of cinema? No!
 * 6) Has the film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking? No!
 * 7) Was the film was selected for preservation in a national archive? No!
 * 8) Is the film "taught" as a subject at an accredited university or college with a notable film program? No! (and I hope not!)
 * 9) Does the film represent a unique accomplishment in cinema; is it a milestone in the development of film art; does it/did it contribute significantly to the development of a national cinema? No!
 * 10) Does the film features significant involvement (ie. one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of his/her career? No! (In part, yes. Ajay Devgn is apparently very notable and there's no denying he played a role in the film. But did he play an important role in the 'making' of the film? No RS; so the answer is no again! But is it a major part of his career? Well, until I see RS proving that, the answer is no!)
 * 11) Was the film successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country? No! India is one of the largest film producing countries in the world! Thanks and regards   ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  07:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * With respects, a problem with your well-intended analysis is that it fails to take into account that many early 1990's newspapers and magazines in India have NEVER been placed into online archives, so we cannot declare as an "absolute" that the film did not receive coverage or reviews by critics known in India nearly 20 years ago. And while the film was only one of Ajay Devgn's early films when he was being typecast as an action hero, it actually marks the big screen debut of actress Tisca Chopra... and as her debut definitely makes it the most important part of her career, and it IS being written of and referred to more than 5 years after its initial release.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 01:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * dont delete it!!!! reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376080/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjeevgeorge123 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * With respects Sanjeevgeorge123, we do know the film exists, but being lsted on IMDB cannot be used as a reference nor does being so listed impart any notability. What is preferred is to show it written up in magazines and newspapers and books. Admittedly, its very name does make searching for online sources a bit dificult. If you have access to offline sources, that would be quite helpful, as sources do not have to be online to be acceptable, despite google being such a crutch.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep: An Ajay Devgan film is definitely notable and main stream Bollywood film. Shovon (talk) 16:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ...And it was the screen debut of actress Tisca Chopra... and as such it definitely makes it the most important part of her career.... which fact is a sourcable notability that meets WP:NF.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:13, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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