Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Playerunknown's Battlegrounds


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Even the nominator notes that notability has been established, so WP:AFD's job is done. Kurykh (talk) 03:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Playerunknown's Battlegrounds

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I don't see many reliable sources reporting on this game (an article needs more than just one of these and a press release), and a quick google search brings up just the official website (only reliable if it's notable to begin with), a couple of fan pages (Facebook, Reddit), the storepage on Steam, a Twitch profile, and some articles on giving away beta keys. And while this isn't a real argument for deleting the page, all the article currently says is the most basic description of the game, everything else was removed by me due to it being WP:GAMECRUFT and ′not following MOS:VG. ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 23:38, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Article received international coverage in reliable sources, use GoogleNews link above and go back beginning of 2016. There are about 30 solid news articles in the German and English scene dealing with the game from past 12 month, in major game related sources, with recently additional coverage about beta testing and key distribution in many major gaming magazines. Producer is a major game design studio from Korea (TERA), additional the developer for the game, created the game genre (survival type games like H1Z1: King of the Kill and ARMA 2 & 3 mod Battle Royale), both games are played by millions everyday, H1Z1 ranks among the most played games on Steam, which is pointed out in the coverage. The article is marked as a Stub, which is not a valid reason to delete it.
 * Reliable sources example - all major sources: (2015 article in Fortune magazine)   (2015 article about PU's BR mod and ARMA)  (German article)  (English article 2016)  (2016 interview)  (2016 article with publisher background).  (Recent article on PAX East participation) You find a lot more about the developer if you search for ARMA Battle Royale, Playerunknown Battle Royale or H1Z1: King of the Kill Brendan Greene -
 * Notice the AfD creator created mentioned H1Z1 article, which is barely much longer than a Stub entry, and the article does not mention PU or BR at all, and since he reasons per WP:GAMECRUFT, see also WP:Competence (sorry to be blunt, but i feel it is required, judging from the delete fest from the editors contributions) prokaryotes (talk) 03:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict, AfD creator added "not following MOS:VG", i don't think that is a reason for deletion, since that addresses a specific article section the AfD nominator removed. prokaryotes (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


 * AfD creator is currently edit warring, he nominated the article after he got reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Playerunknown%27s_Battlegrounds&action=history Classic case of battle behaviour. Stay classy Wikipedia. prokaryotes (talk) 04:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Edit warring involves two people you know, and the article not following guidelines is a reason for me to edit it, which is exactly what I did (before you continued to revert them). I nominated due to the perceived lack of notability, with your primarily reason given "because H1Z1 is popular on Steam" not being a valid reason for why this game in particular should stay as an article. You being upset because somebody else edited an article you created isn't going to help your argument either. ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 06:34, 2 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:34, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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"I don't see many reliable sources reporting on this game"

Every weekend during the Closed Beta Test, it gets on the top 10 on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/directory

On top of that, go on YouTube and search for the game: https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAMSAggD&q=battlegrounds

And also it's on Steam, if you want to further see the game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/578080

That your source(s) right there. Azgoodaz (talk) 17:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC)azgoodaz
 * Tip: You need third party sources, from actual journalists/writers. Please see WP:VG/S for examples of valid sources. Sergecross73   msg me  21:37, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sergecross73, in my above comment are several RS, VG/S seems outdated, it does not include Twitch interviews, the one i used (see article talk page Features section), seemed reliable - interview, for additional information. Someone should add some of above links for background infos. I am personally too busy elsewhere. Good luck. prokaryotes (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Incorrect. I, and many other experienced editors, actively maintain it. Feel free to propose ideas, but it is indeed "up to date". Sergecross73   msg me |
 * It might be a bit insensitive, but if he doesn't have enough time to add proper sources in the first place, then he probably shouldn't be arguing in favor of keeping the article (as the creator). Anyway, it does seem like the game has established notability now, but should the WP:BURDEN for adding sources go on me for nominating it or the article creator for maintaining it? ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 15:30, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No one !voted for deletion, so you can just withdraw the nomination and be done here, and the burden can be on whoever wants to have the article be improved at that point. Sergecross73   msg me  15:43, 6 March 2017 (UTC)


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