Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plodge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Chrysler Canada.  Wifione  Message 06:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Plodge

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Utterly unsupported (and very likely unsupportable) article that openly states right in the first sentence of the lede, that the subject of the article is an "informal name"—with no source attributed, ever, since the article was created in 2005. As such, it violates WP:NEO. Also appears to violate WP:NOR. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 19:06, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:16, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep because I'm nor sure if there is a merge target. Automobile Quarterly has a pretty big writeup on Plodges.  This article notes the name Plodge being applied to Canadian made vehicles for Chrysler Plymouth Dodge.  I suspect there are other auto books and magazines that exist that cover this. -- Whpq (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Automobile Quarterly article looks a little dubious to me; note the scare quotes around the word "Plodge", indicating it is a coinage. If there's reliable support for the formal use of this term, then by all means let's keep the article, but so far all I'm seeing is conjecture and and coinage. As for a merge target, it's not at all clear to me that one is needed. If this article's subject doesn't meet the standards for inclusion in Wikipedia, then no merge target is necessary. If a merge target is necessary, we might look at CKD. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 01:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - There's no need for formal use of the term for there to be an article. -- Whpq (talk) 04:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable "pop" term used to describe the vehicles. The references found above convince me - but they need to be added to the article itself - The Bushranger One ping only 23:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)




 * Weak Keep so long as AQ reference added to article, plus any more if available. Other alternate is to merge into History of Chrysler by adding a Canadian History section, and then redirecting.   78.26  (talk) 17:54, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If consensus is not to delete, then I would definitely throw my support behind this what you propose—which would almost certainly spur more and better coverage development. I just don't see how this neologism merits its own article. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 19:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Really quite shocking that the first response included sources that clearly demonstrated the distinct notability of this term. Nevard (talk) 03:55, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Do they? Please explain. I see them demonstrating usage, but not notability. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 04:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Wonderfully written I hate to have to see this one go, but its creator provided no sources, I know none, if anyone has any please add them to the article. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 19:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Merge into Chrysler Canada, I didn't see this article before. Another source in Car and Driver here . The current article is pretty worthless as it stands as it's all unsourced editorial speculation, but the term does exist. Car and Driver and Automobile Quarterly are both reliable sources and the term occurs on so many other related websites that it can easily be shown to have had enjoyed significant coverage and could be used as just as "Judge"is used on the Pontiac GTO page. and the current Chrysler article is too broad to merge it into. Mighty Antar (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2011 (UTC) Mighty Antar (talk) 18:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - it needs sourcing, for sure, but the content is interesting. I guess it could be merged, but I feel as Mighty Antar does that it might become lost on that page.  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 19:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge - The Plodge term is an non-notable and "informal name" that does not deserve a separate WP article. There are many informal names for some cars, but they are not used for WP articles (for example, "Judge" for the Pontiac GTO and "Hash" for some of the models following the 1954 Nash and Hudson merger). Just because it was used in an opinion piece in Car and Driver should the "Plysler" term also have an article in WP because it is also mentioned in this source? There are many examples of mixed models manufactured by automakers that were made or branded specifically for the Canadian or Mexican markets. In addition to the mixed Chrysler models, there have been specialty Ford models based on Mercurys, as well as various Chevrolets with Pontiac sheet metal (and vice versa), many with names rarely if ever seen on the U.S. market. Yet, there are no separate articles about these Chevtiacs! However, there are specific articles about Ford Motor Company of Canada, General Motors Canada, and Vehiculos Automotores Mexicanos that describe production and models sold in their respective markets. Therefore, the Chrysler-based vehicles designed for the Canadian market should also be merged into the Chrysler Canada article, not kept under this informal name. CZmarlin (talk) 05:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into Chrysler Canada, an article that hadn't occurred to me to seek. This merger is obvious. —Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 07:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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