Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plot of Les Misérables (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirected back to Les Misérables per WP:CSD. (non-admin closure) Sceptre (talk) 13:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Plot of Les Misérables
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Comprises a overly detailed but well written, and well sourced plot summary and outline of Hugo's Les Miserables - and that's it. While a sufficiently detailed plot summary is useful in an article about a notable piece of literature, and is necessary to place literary criticism, impact, and any applicable controversy in context, not only does Plot of Les Misérables over-duplicate a very well written plot summary already in Les Miserables which serves the purposes stated above very well, it is also too overly detailed to be encyclopedic.

Although very well written and sourced, this does not belong on Wikipedia. I'm not sure that any amount of reworking or addition of criticism will produce something encyclopedic that won't duplicate what is already in Les Misérables, or supplement it without being redundant, in fact, material from this summary has been used to improve the main article (see explanation below).

This was deleted via AfD two years ago, and its deletion was upheld in a successive deletion review. Since it was determined that the material in the article could be used to improve Les Misérables, a history only restore was opted for. About a month ago with no prior discussion, a user reverted to the last revision prior to the redirect being put in place, his only explanation being that the original AfD discussion and deletion review were invalid and in his opinion, consensus was overridden. No improvements or work have taken place to address any of the original concerns since then. - 2 ... says you, says me 07:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Transwiki somewhere... Wikia Annex? 70.29.208.129 (talk) 07:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I intend to expand this with literary criticism. In any case, the original AFD actually had a majority in favour of keep. There is no valid reason for deletion. Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 08:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete One of the hazards of an encyclopedia that anyone can edit is that you can edit an article to write the perfect explanation for something, and moments later, someone else will edit your version. This applies whether you're explaining the plot to Les Miserables or to Police Academy 4.  Since the article about Les Miserables contains a large description of the plot, I suspect that this page was created out of frustration with the editing process.  Understandable, but Wikipedia is not Cliff Notes.  Mandsford (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.