Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plug computer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  06:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Plug computer

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the term 'plug computer' does not exist outside of wikipedia - article appears an attempt to 'create' the concept and/or promote certain products. WikiScrubber (talk) 02:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - at this point, I'm not sure if I would endorse deletion or not. Given that the article does have a list of sources, it appears that this product does exist. If the product in question has achieved some level of notability, then I would support giving the article a major rewrite and finding valid sources that do not advertise the product; I would also support a rename to "Pogoplug". If it is proven to not be notable in any way, shape, or form, then I would say "strong delete". Currently looking into the article and its sources, this might take a little while.  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 02:49, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Appears the product hasn't even been released yet. That leaves me to support deletion, for now.  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 02:51, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I see a lot of coverage for a product called "Pogoplug", which I'm assuming is the product in question. First of all, the article is deceptively named... I'll wait to see what sources turn up to make my decision, but I'm leaning delete. Jo7hs2 (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Eh, there is a lot of coverage from CES 2009 and whatnot... Still not sure. Jo7hs2 (talk) 16:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep as Status Quo (but see below re: merge): I cannot ignore two pages of Gnews hits and numerous GS results for some of the products (namely pogoplug), the products clearly meet notability source requirements. My support for keeping is weak becuase the products are not yet released, and we are serving as advertisement and may get stuck with a vaporware article. Jo7hs2 (talk) 16:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect (if there's anything worth merging) with Computer appliance. This article attempts to coin a new term (plug computer) for this category of devices. The term is not used anywhere else, and a widely used term (appliance) already exists. Pburka (talk) 18:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Would Support: I'm torn between keeping this article as-is and waiting to see if the category develops (due to the fairly extensive media coverage of PogoPlug) and merging it with Computer appliance or something similar. Due to the extent of the media coverage of some of these devices, I'm leaning towards keeping the article, however I would also support a merge in the alternative. Jo7hs2 (talk) 18:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as Status Quo: I vote to keep the article, it is a notable new category of devices, a computer in a plug form factor, there are three products in this category which were all announced this year. In once source i've seen this category called "Plugtop comptuer" rather than "Plug computer", maybe it should be renamed. Marokwitz (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC).
 * Can you provide any references that talk about this new category of device? For wikipedia to invent this category would be WP:OR, and I stand by my earlier claim that these are just network appliances. The Pogogplug is essentially the same as a Buffalo. Pburka (talk) 14:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * For example here: http://www.axentra.com/en/press/pressreleases/2009_02.html and here: http://cloudcomputing.sys-con.com/node/799184 and here: http://www.ctera.com/home/technology/ctera-embedded.html and here: http://www.axentra.com/en/pdf/2009-AXTA-PR-PlugTopComputing.pdf Marokwitz (talk) 12:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The first and fourth links are press releases from Axentra. The third link doesn't work. The second link reads like a press release, as well, but it's not as clear. To me, this seems like one or two companies are trying to push a new name for appliance computers. I stand by my vote to merge and redirect unless someone can provide compelling evidence that (a) this term is wide spread in the industry, and (b) that there's some appreciable difference between a plug top computer and a network appliance. Pburka (talk) 14:10, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * A plug computer is a network appliance that is fully enclosed inside an AC power plug. That's the difference. Marokwitz (talk) 14:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm misunderstanding these devices, then. The image at http://www.pogoplug.com/ looks like it has a power cord to attach it to the wall outlet. Am I wrong? Or do you mean that it has a built-in AC adapter. If so, that would describe most desktop computers and network appliances (including the Buffalo I linked to above). Pburka (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope, the photo doesn't show that, all products in this category are fully enclosed in the plugs, and no cable is needed. For example see the photo here: http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2009/01/ces_get_your_files_anywhere_even_in_your_car.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marokwitz (talk • contribs) 08:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.