Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pocahontas (nickname)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump.  Sandstein  19:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Pocahontas (nickname)

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Looks like we need an AfD to kill this article, otherwise it will be resurrected again and again. Is really everything related to Donald Trump which was once fixed in media notable? Are we looking forward to articles on Trump's sink or a favorite suit? Shoud we have an article on every Trump's tweet? Ymblanter (talk) 13:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, do not redirect, per WP:G10 and WP:FANCRUFT. WP:SALT per likelihood that this title can only ever be used as a racist epithet directed at a specific person (also WP:G10). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:49, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete he has used the term for Warren in speeches and tweets over a long time but no we don't need this. Legacypac (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete because the mind boggles with such mind boggling insignificance. -The Gnome (talk) 14:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 *  Delete but DO Redirect to List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump, as the more significant epithets on that page already have such redirects (e.g., Crooked Hillary and Lyin' Ted. The most famous or infamous (take your pick) individual in the world used and uses this harassing name to attack another very notable politician. WP:G10 certainly applies to when would-be Wikipedia editors are disparaging, threatening, intimidating, or harassing a subject, but not when our article subjects are attacking other persons in a notable way. Vadder (talk) 15:04, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Striking the Delete part of my !vote so as to retain the attribution history. Vadder (talk) 17:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump (and absolutely not to Elizabeth Warren). I'm not just passionately excited about the long-term viability of the "list of nicknames" article, but it survived AFD pretty handily, so I'll just sit here quietly and hold a minority opinion. At the very least, if we're going to have the article in that format, we might as well point stuff like that to it. For attribution reasons, delete-and-redirect is probably not the right approach here. Protecting the redirect will almost certainly be required. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:23, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump. Trump has used this nickname for Warren on many occassions, and although the press has extensively covered it, I don't believe it's of enough significance to warrant a stand-alone article. (Certainly nowhere near the signifiance of Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.) I certainly don't agree with the notion that this page is wp:fancruft. Trump's repeated usage of this nickname for Warren has received quite an extensive amount of media coverage. Zingarese (talk) 15:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment on redirection - if we're going to have a redirect for this, it should be disambiguated in a way which makes clear that it's both intended by the subject and heard by the target, as well as largely viewed by reliable sources (e.g. ) as a racial slur, not a nickname. I suggest Pocahontas (slur). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:44, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump as a plausible search term. And protect it so nobody can do this again. Smartyllama (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect (keeping the edit history) to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump: this is exactly what that list is for, as the AfD discussion for that list bore out.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt per Ivanvector. Not needed here at all and a definite WP:BLP issue.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 03:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, Redirect to list of nicknames used by Donald Trump, and Salt/Protect for reasons already articulated by the nominator and several people including myself at multiple other similar discussions. Fails WP:GNG among other things. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 20:32, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of nicknames used by Donald Trump seems the most reasonable home for it. Well covered term but does not need it's own article. PackMecEng (talk) 21:27, 27 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.