Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Podmajersky, Inc.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Podmajersky, Inc.
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A company that allegedly owns 125 properties in a single Chicago neighborhood fails notability Mpen320 (talk) 03:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Plenty of references from reliable sources. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The issue isn't the lack of sources. I could easily find reliable sources on myself and my career, but I'm not notable.--Mpen320 (talk) 16:33, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It's notable enough for Crains, the Tribune and the Reader? Victor Grigas (talk) 16:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * the references are all about one or another controversies, but the article doesn't really have these controversies in there. In general, I'd usually say 125 properties does not make a firm notable, but if these sources were in included in a real way (i.e. with controversies intact). I'd likely say "bordereline notable" or better. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 18:34, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Since there is only WP:LOCAL coverage, I question notability. A single RS from at least 100 miles from Chicago would change my mind.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:12, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. I haven't been able to find any substantial in-depth coverage in reliable sources, with the exception of the Crain's article that's cited in the article, and that's really about the family rather than their company. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 23:14, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * forgive me I’m on mobile, so these sources will be bare links, please let me know if any meet your criteria. Many are books published a few decades ago, and on google you just need to type in ‘podmajersky’ to Find the references. Many are about urban planning and I haven’t checked but they maybe non-Chicago based publishers :


 * 1) https://books.google.com/books/about/Green_Development.html?id=yuhmds7ChHoC
 * 2) https://interactive.wttw.com/my-neighborhood/pilsen/gentrification
 * 3) https://books.google.com/books/about/Just_Green_Enough.html?id=ltZCDwAAQBAJ (This one was written by a known academic Dominic A. Pachyga)
 * 4) https://books.google.com/books/about/Chicago_city_of_neighborhoods.html?id=tWt5AAAAMAAJ
 * 5) https://books.google.com/books/about/Claiming_Neighborhood.html?id=7lYdDQAAQBAJ
 * 6) https://books.google.com/books/about/Producing_Local_Color.html?id=WXq3AVyMFmMC
 * 7) https://books.google.com/books/about/Secret_Chicago_A_Guide_to_the_Weird_Wond.html?id=yKNaDwAAQBAJ
 * 8) https://art.newcity.com/2014/06/16/news-embroiled-legal-battle-over-chicago-arts-district-properties/


 * I’ll keep looking. Victor Grigas (talk) 02:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Most of these deal with the person John Podmajersky rather than the company Podmajersky, Inc. They could perhaps be cited to create an article on the person, but they don't indicate that the company is notable. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * OK do you think this should be entirely re-written to be a biography, not an article about a company?Victor Grigas (talk) 16:20, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If you wanted to write a biographical article about Podmajersky then it would presumably be at the title John Podmajersky (which is currently a redirect) or perhaps John Podmajersky, Jr., so it wouldn't be a matter of rewriting the existing article but rather of creating a whole new article. I obviously am not able to offer predictions or advice about whether a hypothetical article would be kept or deleted at AfD if it were created, but I'm not convinced Podmajersky the person (or rather, any of the people by that name – we seem to be dealing with three generations' worth) meets the criteria of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject either. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 16:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (talk) 23:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: as a purely local company with no real notability. The article is a borderline WP:COATRACK. Toddst1 (talk) 19:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete There just isn't enough coverage that meets the criteria to establish notability to convince me that this company is notable. On the other hand, I believe that perhaps John Podmajersky would meet the criteria for notability.  HighKing++ 18:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


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