Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Point Rock, NY


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The result was   keep. ff m  12:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Point Rock, NY

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Poorly written, no citations, and no assertion of notability. Musashi1600 (talk) 12:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep/move to Point Rock, New York. Appears to be at least a former village with 140 years of written history: . --Rividian (talk) 12:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Lee, New York. Per numerous precedents, geographical places are inherently notable, but not always enough to warrant an article of their own. This one I could not find in my McNally Atlas. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 12:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by "numerous precedents" but I've never seen a town article, existing or historical, getting deleted. My Rand McNally Atlas doesn't show the town I used to live in,  Tarzana, California, but that of course is not criteria for deleting an article. --Oakshade (talk) 23:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Move to Point Rock, New York. Although sourcing is limited, there is a source (the article cites one EL) and there's ample evidence on the Internet that this is a real place (among other things, it's mapped on the various online map sites, and the satellite images show that it is still a small village). The online images of generic postcards sent from "Point Rock, NY" (at this link) indicate to me that the village of Point Rock had a distinct identity at one time. This place (like many other old villages and hamlets in the United States) may be of interest primarily to people doing genealogy research, but their interest alone gives the article information value. Merging it into the Town of Lee would not be an ideal solution, since this place does not seem to have been considered "Point Rock in the Town of Lee", but rather "Point Rock, New York." --Orlady (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Lee, New York, per Blanchardb. The article says that it's located in the northeast corner of Lee, a town with about 7,000 residents, and consists of a few houses and a closed bar; it appears to be a neighborhood in a little town in upstate New York, and there are thousands of neighborhoods in the boundaries Oneida County.  The idea that there is a town called "Point Rock, New York" is fantasy, and need not be encouraged here.  Mandsford (talk) 14:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Once notable, always notable. When a historical village is annexed by a nearby town, there is still interest in the historical village and its history. It is not necessary that the town exist today for there to be an article on it. See Carthage. See for the GNIS listing. --Eastmain (talk) 16:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - That it might no longer exist as its own "independent" community doesn't mean it's no longer notable, it means its notability is now of historical significance instead of current. --Oakshade (talk) 23:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * keep If it was an independent village at any point, it's notable. DGG (talk) 00:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


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