Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Point system for penalties


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was other This has been redirected, and it seems like there was a consensus forming to delete, or at least that the old version of this page wasn't worth keeping. So for the time being redirecting seems okay. An article about points system for driving offenses or something could be created, of course. W.marsh 05:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Point system for penalties
Delete. The article "Point system for penalties" has existed since May 2005. In that time, no explanation has ever been added to this non-article describing what a "point system for penalties" is. The sum total of the article is a "list" of countries that have "point systems for penalties" that includes only two items. The only article linking to "Point system for penalties" is "Road Traffic Safety Law of the People's Republic of China". That article states, among other features of the law, that "The point system for penalties was integrated into the new law." It does not explain what the "point system for penalties" is, how it works, how important it is, or what this means to citizens. Instead, it links to "Point system for penalties", which, in lieu of explanation, states, "see Road Traffic Safety Law of the People's Republic of China." This reflexive loop provides no information about the topic. A template citing lack of sufficient context was placed in July 2005, and was removed by another user the same day. I placed another such banner in February 2006 and added the comment to the talk page that I would be nominating the article for deletion the week ending 17 March 2006 if no additional information had been added. There has been no activity on the article since I placed the template. This is not an article, it expresses no useful information, and it serves no purpose other than to take up space. Clearly no one has any interest in saving it, and after my involvement I still have no better idea of what a "point system for penalties" is. Delete it. Canonblack 12:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as devoid of meaning. Lambiam 12:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Not useful and never gonna get expanded Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 13:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep expand and rename to something like List of countries with points systems for motoring offences. Jcuk 16:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * merge with Road Traffic Safety Law of the People's Republic of China. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 21:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: If I am allowed to reiterate, Jcuk the "article" has been "alive" for ten months and no one has yet seen fit to expand this into an article at all; why should we expect this to change in the future? Without defining what a point system for penalties or motoring offences is, the article is meaningless.  In response to Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens, there is no data here to merge.  The point is that a "point system for penalties" is not described here or in the parent article.  Simply merging the two named countries into the parent article is meaningless when the subject itself has not been defined.  A request for context and expansion has been placed twice and in both cases was ignored. Canonblack 00:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Remark: I've removed the completely useless link from the Road Traffic Safety Law of the People's Republic of China to this page, so the zero-information loop is broken. Re Niffweed17's suggestion, I think it is a neat way of making the article disappear ;) Lambiam 00:38, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Points systems exist. Bringing it to AfD may get the article rewritten, and it seems a valid topic to write on. Jcuk 01:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I never said point systems don't exist or that the topic was invalid, I said this article has been in existence for nearly a year, it doesn't say anything about point systems, and no one is writing it. If the article means that much to you, then you flesh it out.  No one else is going to. Canonblack 03:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete useless, expansion questionable in near or far future. --MaNeMeBasat 08:41, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.