Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokemonexperte


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The result was delete. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 19:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Pokemonexperte

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Pokemon fan site that makes a claim to notability by stating that it's the largest of its kind in Europe. No source to really substantiate such a claim. Borderline speedy deletion candidate, decided on discussion instead.  Leebo  T / C  02:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as vanispamiwhatchamacallit. Somehow I doubt that the real largest Pokémon site would fail to properly put the grave accent over the E... Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 03:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the diacritic in Pokémon is acute rather than grave, but the idea remains the same :)  Leebo  T / C  12:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Delete per 10PH .  tomasz.  12:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per TenPoundHammer  Goldenglove Contribs · Talk 13:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, many Pokemon sites don't put the accent on the E. And it is the largest competitive Pokemon community in Europe, if you enter the forum and click "statistik" you will see over 9000 registered users.  Other sites such as Pallettown (Pokemon community in the Netherlands) and pcforums (Pokemon community based in Italy) pale in comparison, Pokemonexperte is easily the most recognizable European Pokemon community. — Defal555 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 15:25, June 1, 2007 (UTC).
 * Comment. i can't find "having a large number of members" and "paling in comparison with other sites" in WP:WEB.  tomasz.  15:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) speedy delete Checking the logs, it was speedied already for being non-notable, think it's still like that. Whsitchy 15:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment also, see WP:BIGNUMBER Whsitchy 15:36, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * "i can't find "having a large number of members" and "paling in comparison with other sites"


 * Then check the sites for yourself instead of blabbing on about how it isn't notable.


 * www.pallettown.com


 * Just checked, pcforums doesn't even exist anymore! So why don't you find a competitive European Pokemon site that's bigger then?  Pokemonexperte is the only active European Pokemon community that has a Netbattle server as well.


 * Also, I just linked the topic that contains the Hall of Fame as well as the member list (Which shows over 9000 registered users).


 * "Somehow I doubt that the real largest Pokémon site would fail to properly put the grave accent over the E"


 * Just felt like commenting on this stupid remark, wow what a dumb comment considering I'm referring to COMPETITIVE Pokemon sites and not general ones, so wtf? — Defal555 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 15:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC).


 * Then check the sites for yourself instead of blabbing on about how it isn't notable. He's referring to our notability guidelines for web content. Having a lot of members doesn't make a web community notable.  Leebo  T / C  15:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Commment. "wow what a dumb comment considering I'm referring to COMPETITIVE Pokemon sites and not general ones". Is Pokémon spelt differently depending on whether you're competing or not, then?  tomasz.  16:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Let's try to avoid egging each other on. The creator is a new user and is not familiar with our standards for inclusion. Understandably, he is frustrated.  Leebo  T / C  16:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * "Having a lot of members doesn't make a web community notable."


 * But it is notable, being the largest competitive community alone makes it notable.


 * "Is Pokémon spelt differently depending on whether you're competing or not, then?"


 * So instead of responding to my point you continue to use something very insignificant that doesn't matter? — Defal555 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 17:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC).


 * But it is notable, being the largest competitive community alone makes it notable. No, it doesn't. Did you read Notability (web) before responding? We have definitions of notability for different subjects.  Leebo  T / C  17:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It met the qualifications, and you guys haven't been able to disprove anything. It seems like when one of you wants something deleted, the others just randomly agree like a bunch of minions. — Defal555 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 19:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC).

From WP:WEB itself:
 * Please indicate which criterion in the notability guidelines it meets. Copy the text if that will make it more clear.  Leebo  T / C  19:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and comment Being a "minion" as you said I supposed I should give you a chance to show how this site meets WP:WEB.

1. The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself.
 * This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper and magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations. except for the following:
 * Media re-prints of press releases and advertising for the content or site.
 * Trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report the internet address, newspaper articles that simply report the times at which such content is updated or made available, a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of internet addresses and site or content descriptions in internet directories or online stores.

2. The website or content has won a well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization.

3. The content is distributed via a medium which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster; except for:
 * Trivial distribution such as hosting content on user-submitted sites (GeoCities, Newgrounds, personal blogs, etc.)

Can you show where it meets ANY of these 3? Wildthing61476 20:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
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