Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokernews.com


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The result was   redirect to Tony G.  MBisanz  talk 05:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Pokernews.com

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One of many gambling news web sites. It's not a totally trivial entity but it fails WP:N since mentions of it in reliable sources are in passing or press releases, not the focus of coverage. Additionally the website is covered under the Tony G article, the person who owns it. We have hundreds of poker player articles. Most of them have websites. We certainly should not make separate articles for both the players and their websites. 2005 (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep change to Reluctant Delete(see below) This isn't just a Tong G Website, PokerNews is a well known poker media site which provide official updates and chip counts for the World Series of Poker and is the official media partner of the Aussie Millions, is a highly reliable source with first person TV interviews and reports this absolutely shouldn't had gone to AFD but does stand for some clean up and expansion.▪◦▪  ≡S i R E X≡  Talk 12:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is an important website and a generally reliable source. However, it fails WEB, and WP:N.  The article you link to above merely says it will provide play by play of the WSOP.  Three years ago literally fifty websites would have qualified, but more to the point, the article is not about pokernews.com.  It simply does not have dedicated coverage in reliable sources where it is the focus of the articles. (One other point, the article is putrid now.  It could be improved obviously, but it needs to be noted that the things used as sources now, bluff and pokerworks, are owned by pokernews or their business partner, or are printing a press release. 2005 (talk) 12:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 50 sites were not named by Harrah's nor was direct updates done by another site other then PokerNews on the Worldseriesofpoker.com official website, Their site show they conduct professional interviews with the poker players themselves about as reliable as you can get, the isn't a fly by night poker web sites the reports events 3rd handed, other then Cardplayer it's one of the highly regarded websites that covers a great number of high buy-in tournaments and conducts professionally written interviews and articles about poker.▪◦▪ ≡S i R E X≡  Talk 12:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, I agree it is a great website. It just doesn't meet the very minimal coverage thresholds of WP:WEB or WP:N. If you can find two MSNBC or similar article focusing on the history, corporate structure and value of Pokernews.com, then great it could have an article, but I've looked and I see nothing like that.  2005 (talk) 12:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've looked and I haven't found a third party reliable sources that covers the Website itself just mentions of them, but it seem due to the nature of the site and the way other sites relies on the their reports I believe in time the site will meet WP:WEB requirements however due to that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball I've change to delete. if events do change I will support the existence of an article on the site, as I see it as one of the most important Poker media sites on the web.▪◦▪ ≡S i R E X≡  Talk 13:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, doesn't seem to meet WP:WEB; merits a mention at best in the Tony G article. Stifle (talk) 12:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Tony G. It seems reasonable to discuss someone's business in context, even when that business doesn't deserve its own page. (I could've sworn I commented on this already...) - Mgm|(talk) 10:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.