Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Political accusations against the Baha'i Faith


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The result was speedy keep. There is already a merge discussion on Talk:Persecution of Bahá'ís. Since this discussion doesn't advance an argument for deletion or redirection, I'm closing it per WP:SK. (non-admin closure) clpo13(talk) 21:47, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Political accusations against the Baha'i Faith

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Page should be merged with Persecution of Bahá'ís. KnowledgeBattle | TalkPage | GodlessInfidel ┌┬╫┴┼╤╪╬╜ 15:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Political accusations is not Persecution, there's a difference. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * opposed reliable sources have made the case of political accusations uniquely in this case. --Smkolins (talk) 16:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey there, that's not the point being made. I see you're Bahá'í, and I don't mean to bring offense – I understand that reliable sources have contributed to what makes up the article – the point is that the fundamental premise of the article already exists within the page Persecution of Bahá'ís. I see that some of the material could warrant the creation of a different page – specifically, Bahá'í conspiracy theories, just as there is Masonic conspiracy theories, Judeo-Masonic conspiracy theory, New World Order (conspiracy), and others. However, this article fails many aspects of Wikipedia's guidelines, and would be better to merge with the Persecution of Bahá'ís page that already exists. KnowledgeBattle | TalkPage | GodlessInfidel ┌┬╫┴┼╤╪╬╜ 20:39, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, a telling point about such articles on conspiracy theories is who has them - in the case of the article discussed it is pretty exclusively those fostered by the Iranian government. BTW I'm not checking what religion you are or not. Relatively immaterial. The point is how sources characterize the situation. Persecution of Baha'is has happened in many other countries and contexts but few have ever developed a public presentation of such ideas and none except in the case of Iran are current or as long lasting. I've added a list of sources since 2011 that speak to the political character of the demagoguery. --Smkolins (talk) 20:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I wear my lack of religion on my signature. ;-) ("Godless infidel") I definitely consider it an important and valuable thing to document real persecution of any religious group, by any country, because it helps shed light on religious persecution, which – when the country has political pressure applied to become more liberal – will bring greater religious freedom for all people, regardless of what religion they are. So, I certainly agree with documenting religious persecution. However, even if a Baha'i conspiracy theories page is created, it would still allow for that explanation – which is being pushed by the Iranian government – to be explained within the article (add an "Origins" subsection, to explain the persecution coming from the Iranian government). Trust me – as an atheist, I have NO intention of ever visiting Iran. However, Wikipedia guidelines should still be applied to any article. KnowledgeBattle | TalkPage | GodlessInfidel ┌┬╫┴┼╤╪╬╜ 21:11, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So do you want the article deleted, merged, or renamed? Why push all three ideas at the same time? --Smkolins (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


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