Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Political hip hop (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep as withdrawn. &mdash; Maggot Syn 06:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Political hip hop
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Article is recreation of deleted material, Original research, and violatesWP:V,WP:RS, and WP:NEO Deletion withdrawn.Johan Rachmaninov (talk) 01:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not suitable for an article.  Enigma  message 04:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC) East presents a good case for inclusion.  Enigma  message 16:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep; clearly not a neologism, and even a cursory search through news and scholarly databases reveals that this is a legitimate topic. Possible sources for consideration include:


 * "Out on the Edge: Political Hip-Hop; Rap and Rant From Souljah, KRS-One & Disposable Heroes" by David Mills in the April 5, 1992 edition of the Washington Post
 * "Time to revive political hip-hop" in the April 8, 2005 edition of the Spokane-Spokesman Review
 * "Political hip-hop a major force in South American youth culture." by Cindy Carcamo in the April 11, 2006 edition of the Orange County Register
 * "Profile: Political hip-hop", aired on the June 17, 2004 edition the NPR program Morning Edition
 * "Arab-American rappers find new voice in political hip-hop music" by the Associated Press, April 3, 2006
 * "Is Political Hip Hop Dead?" by Oliver Wang in the January 18, 2005 edition of the San Francisco Bay Guardian
 * "Political hip-hop at SOB's" by Diego Graglia in the August 15, 2007 edition of the New York Daily News
 * "This political hip-hop focuses on one issue" by Alicia Wittmeyer in the August 3, 2004 edition of The Daily Review (Spokane, CA)
 * "Hip hop culture's identity crisis" by Gary Pieters in the May 17, 2007 edition of the Toronto Star
 * "Another selective rebellion from Public Enemy" by Michael Corcoran in the September 29, 1991 edition of the Chicago-Sun Times
 * "K-10 connection: Everything s coming up hip-hop between KC and Lawrence" by Jenee Osterheldt in the November 28, 2003 edition of the Kansas City Star
 * "The Unheard Hip Hop" in the August 11, 1999 edition of the Minneapolis City Pages

Books:
 * The Resisting Muse: Popular Music and Social Protest by Ian Peddie
 * What the Music Said: Black Popular Music and Black Public Culture by Mark Anthony Neal
 * To the Break of Dawn: A Freestyle on the Hip Hop Aesthetic by William Jelani Cobb
 * Spectacular Vernaculars: Hip-hop and the Politics of Postmodernism by Russell A. Potter
 * Africana: The Encyclopedia of the African and African American Experience by Henry Louis Gates and Anthony Appiah


 * "The Black Arts Movement and Hip-Hop" by Marvin J. Gladney. African American Review, Vol. 29, No. 2, Special Issues on The Music (Summer, 1995), pp. 291-301. Indiana State University; ISSN 10624783

Any concerns about original research can be addressed through the normal editing process. east. 718 at 05:00, July 2, 2008
 * Keep per east718's exhaustive list of sources. Be sure to put a copy of those on the article talk page! Vickser (talk) 06:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd never have thought of that! Will do... east. 718 at 06:10, July 2, 2008
 * Regardless, it is still recreaion of deleted matirial, which over lapes with the more general genre consious hip hop. As for your sources, how do i know wether they are merley refering to hip hop which happens to be political, instead of refering to it as an actual genre, which it is not. lyrical themes do not make genres.Johan Rachmaninov (talk) 07:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You could try going to the sites. Thats a rather large list of newspaper and related sources. Appears automatic grounds for inclusion in my opinion. Suggest a withdraw? &mdash; Maggot Syn 11:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a merge with conous hip hop would be a better solution. Thoughts? Johan Rachmaninov (talk) 11:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I suspect you mean Conscious hip hop. But if you no longer wish it deleted, suggesting a merge can be done on the articles talk page. &mdash; Maggot Syn 11:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep That sourcing shown here needs to make it into the article, though. It doesn't need to be merged with another hip-hop target.  there is more than enough to merit a unique article. Protonk (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - In addition to those sources above, there's an Allmusic entry and numerous results for "political hip hop" and "political rap" in Google Books to verify this genre. Yeah the article looks crappy now, but it'll improve. Spellcast (talk) 17:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Evidence of notability presented above convinces me. -- Quartermaster (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.