Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Political violence in Spain since 1975


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is that the topic is notable, but most commentators ignore that the article (which attributes hundreds of individual murders to still-existing organizations!) is entirely unsourced, violating the core policy WP:V. I'll userfy the article on request so that this omission can be remedied.  Sandstein  21:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Political violence in Spain since 1975

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This article is basically a POV article. Political violence is a phenomenon not only in Spain, but in all countries. The entire article is unsourced and documents some news events, and violates WP:NOT.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 16:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge anything that can be sourced to List of ETA attacks which would cover a large majority of the items on the list. Linking the different groups on one list seems a poor idea to me and would be better documented for each group individually. Davewild (talk) 17:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strangely there is no mention at all of murders by the Spanish far right in the article. The article subject might be valid, but just have a random listing is not leading to any understanding of the subject. So, unless there is a through rewrite i'd vote delete. --Soman (talk) 19:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is no mention by murders of the far right because I havent reached them yet. I have been starting on 2008 working backwards and Im now on 1993. The last far right killings were in 1989, I think.--Damam2008 (talk) 20:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: This article seems fine. Don't see how this is "POV". It is a new article, and contributing to it may be a better solution than trying to delete it! The reasons given for deletion (POV??) are difficult to understand and it sounds like this user simply dislikes its content. In any case, there are many similar articles, an example: Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2008. --Burgas00 (talk) 20:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Spain has a long tradition of political violence. There is ETA, and there is the following (probably due to a failure to sack torturers in the police forces when the Franco regime ended): "Reports of torture and other ill-treatment by law enforcement officers continued to be widespread. Law enforcement bodies and judicial authorities failed to investigate such cases in line with international standards, leading to effective impunity." For a state in the west of Europe all of this is quite remarkable. --Hans Adler (talk) 19:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as notable and sourced subject, similar to other articles on the "violence" subjects.Biophys (talk) 20:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.