Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polito-islamische Werbung


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Polito-islamische Werbung

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Neologism Jac 16888 Talk 18:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Link to google translation-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I was just considering this step after correcting some spellings/typos in the article, but tagged it for translation instead to see what happened... The title only returns one ghit - here. (Another link comes up, but the term doesn't appear to be on the page.) I prodded it as an essay, but this was declined by an IP - possibly the author not logged in. I still think it is an essay. Unreferenced, too. Peridon (talk) 19:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Move to Politico-Islamic advertising, which is what this translates to any case or to Islamic propaganda, which is the sense of Werbung.--Auric (talk) 03:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Doing so would not change the fact that this in an unsourced non-notable neologism, machine translated or not (which you're not supposed to do by the way)-- Jac 16888 Talk 03:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Then why do we have a template that implies that it is okay or at least better than nothing?--Auric (talk) 04:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * For the people who don't bother to do their homework, Translation . In most cases a machine translation is worse than it untranslated, they are often unintelligible, and unlike untranslated articles, they cannot be procedurally nominated for deletion after 2 weeks, instead they sit as they are for months. By using a straight machine translation without even attempting to do any further tidying, you are not helping the project, you're making it worse and making more work for the people who actually try to do it properly-- Jac 16888 Talk 04:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry. It looks straight-forward, with less of the clutter that usually happens when translating from German. That doesn't mean that I won't work to improve it. It just means that it will take longer than a professional translator. I commented out the original text if you need to refer to it. --Auric (talk) 06:03, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete it's an ad for some advertising consultants. And, as Jac16888 said: it an unsourced non-notable neologism. It gets 2 hits on Google: 1 from the article itself, and one from a German tweet blog. My guess? There have been European controversies caused by advertising which some Muslims find offensive - Some discussion here on this slow link.


 * In spite of the fact this particular article is actually harmful, dangerous and begs for deletion, there is probably an interesting article in the actual topic - for someone who wants to take the time to dig it out of European newspapers and translate it properly. Maybe the Guardian or Times have some coverage in English. The real article would not be titled "Polito-Islamic advertising" (or propaganda) though. It would be something like "Advertising for Muslims living in a secular, western society" or "Advertising in a secular, western society with a significant Muslim demographic".


 * Aquib (talk) 04:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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