Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polnische Wehrmacht (World War II)


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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 06:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Polnische Wehrmacht (World War II)

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This article is a result of a simple misunderstanding. A formation called Polnische Wehrmacht never actually existed in the Wehrmacht and cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, because the title is borrowed from a common phrase in the German language and simply turned upside down. In that regard the article is a non-notable hoax. Adolf Hitler said: The task of the Wehrmacht is to destroy the Polish armed forces (die polnische Wehrmacht)... quoted from the 3 April 1939 directive for a plan of German attack against Poland. Poeticbent talk 00:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC) The result this Freudian Mumbo Jumbo is a whole bunch of paradigms piling up, one upon the other:
 * 1) Polska Siła Zbrojna existed in 1917, not in 1944 (wrong war !!)
 * 2) Legion Orła Białego was from Stalinist Poland, not from Nazi Germany
 * 3) Waffen SS Polen never took off, it was an idea
 * 4) Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor died in 1637 over three hundred years earlier, the best joke by far! Poeticbent talk  02:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete No in-line citations. I'm not sure Inne Oblicza Historii is a reliable source and the one article I looked at doesn't support the article's assertions. The article also lists Jerzy Kochanowski's work but that source also doesn't support the article's assetions. The translated version says that the Poles refused to serve the German occupiers and Nazi leadership had no trust in the Poles, anyway. At most, some Poles may have been in an auxiliary unit digging ditches, nothing more. American Slavic and East European Review agrees with Poeticbent that Polish soldiers served under German officers during WWI, not WWII. Now that I've wasted an hour debunking this, let me emphasize that amateurs have no business writing historical articles. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article was created by a SPA and is a translation of Polish Wikipedia article created there by IP 79.186.158.27. I cannot find any refs to support this article's existence, the online articles I found don't mention this formation by name. I agree with Poeticbent we have a hoax/OR here. Kill it. I'll start the deletion procedure at pl wiki. A German language editor should comment on linked de:Division Weißer Adler which I cannot find much sources about, either, so they may want to start a discussion on de wiki about this article as well. PS. We already have a proper article on Poles in the Wehrmacht which contains an unref summary of this hoax, it will have to be purged of this vandalism, and all incoming links should be similarly reviewed and cleansed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Piotrus re: Weißer Adler: The german article actually seems OK. It seems to be based on Kochanowski's article and describes an attempt that failed. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:36, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Recently, I read the article of Kochanowski Jerzy (Polacy do Wehrmachtu? Propozycje i dyskusje 1939-1945. Zarys problemu, Przegląd Historyczny, Vol. 93, 2002, No. 3) and there is no information about such a thing. Kmicic (talk) 13:39, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Also, I would like to point out that there is a section called Polische Wehrmacht located on the Poles in the Wehrmacht article that also should be removed, and the German version of this article should also be flagged for deletion. Finally, there are a few links to the Polische Wehrmacht that should be removed if and when the process in concluded. --Factor01 (talk) 16:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * re:"Poles in W" - I've just delketed the section as unreferenced. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - I deprodded this page because it was desribed as "fork" in the prod. When seeing this AfD I momentarily felt guilty, but now I see I did the right thing: otherwise the whole fancy section in Poles in the Wehrmacht would have survived but for this discussion. - A yet another argument in favor of AfD with its many eyeballs. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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