Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pong Unitas


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The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of Washington Senators (NFL) players. Liz Read! Talk! 06:23, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Pong Unitas

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Article created last year in violation of WP:SPORTBASIC, prong 4, providing that: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." Here, the article is based solely on databases and lacks any SIGCOV. Article also fails WP:GNG as my searches turned up zero SIGCOV. Further, the subject played only two games as a backup lineman during a period (1921) when the APFA was not the major league that it later became. Redirect to List of Washington Senators (NFL) players is probably the best outcome. Cbl62 (talk) 01:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of Washington Senators (NFL) players. I made this way back yonder in my youth, but I do agree as I have had others of similar substance, or lack thereof, merged and redirected to other articles. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 02:07, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * We are in agreement on redirecting. If you can find some SIGCOV, a stand-alone article might be acceptable. Cbl62 (talk) 02:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Honestly couldn’t even prove to you this guy was even real other than the fact that the NFL says he was and that there is a gravestone with his name on it in Baltimore. From what limited access I have from newspapers.com I couldn’t even find as much as an obituary page, not to mention a full-blown article. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 03:12, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I have full access to Newspapers.com, did a search, and came up empty. Cbl62 (talk) 14:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, Maryland,  and Washington, D.C..  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  04:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Obit here - looking up "Pong Unitas" gives a mere one mention of him in a game preview (which says he's from Iowa?) - I'd bet there's a name he's better known by... BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The first is a paid death notice rather than an independent obituary. The second is a simple roster listing. Neither of them counts toward GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 22:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I know that - that's why I haven't voted "keep". BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:25, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to make sure that others understand, too. Cbl62 (talk) 17:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of Washington Senators (NFL) players as of now. I'm more than happy to change my !vote if SIGCOV is found. On a sidenote, I'm don't know if he is related to Johnny Unitas but in Johnny's article it says his surname was a result of a phonetic transliteration of a common Lithuanian last name Jonaitis. Alvaldi (talk) 08:36, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I did take a crack at finding some sources on Newspapers.com and Proquest but other than the above mentioned sources, the best I could find are mentions of a player with the second name Unitas playing for the Washington Professionals in 1921. Alvaldi (talk) 09:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The Washington Professionals player is the same guy - the team (per our article) was also known as the "Washington Pros" in its one year in the NFL. BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.