Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pope Joan (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Pope Joan (band)

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Moving here from a CSD A7 request. Seems to be advertising with serious COI issues. Appears not to have charted any singles or to have released an LP (I'm not sure what a mini-album is). Their label OIB Records does not appear sufficiently notable to have it's own Wikipedia page. Article has two references, but I am unable to verify them. -- Selket Talk 09:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I asked Selket to get more opinions at AfD due to the following snippet in the article: "The release achieved critical acclaim from the British music press gaining good reviews from national publications such as NME, Artrocker, Rock Sound and The Fly, alongside positive support from many prominent music blogs and fanzines." I can't check any of the print references, but that might be enough for WP:BAND. The album reviews I find online are probably not reliable: chicago-independent.com, subba-cultcha.com, glasswerk.co.uk, incendiarymag.com, soundfreak.co.uk. Has an indication of importance, I don't know whether they are. Hopefully our resident experts can judge it. Amalthea  10:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  --  Amalthea  10:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I had reviewed this article while helping clear the new article backlog and requested the CSD A7 primarily because of no real indication of notability that I could ascertain but also because of significant and blatant COI issues. The article was written by the band members using User:Pope Joan and openly discussed being band members on their talk page.  Bands are certainly not one of my strong areas, much less UK bands and though I could find no mention of them on Google or Yahoo, being a US user I didn't think to search UK versions of those services at the time.  I will leave this discussion alone now so the experts can weigh in but wanted to fill in some of the background about how it arrived at this forum.  Cheers, Veriss (talk) 03:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:13, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - They've generated some buzz, but there is not signficant coverage in reliable sources. This might change when they release an album, but for now, they fail the inclusion criteria. -- Whpq (talk) 16:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. Hard to pass the notability threshold without an album or more significant coverage.  The COI is not definitive, but it doesn't help. Chick Bowen 03:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.