Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pope John XXIII Central Catholic High School


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 03:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Pope John XXIII Central Catholic High School

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 * Delete A non-notable high school. Was not able to find any independent sources that demonstrated WP:GNG. Tooncool64 (talk) 02:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nebraska-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  04:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as has coverage in two reliable sources newspapers already referenced in the article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * leaning Keep. The first newspaper clipping is describing the formation of a non profit corp to build a catholic school at Elgin. The second is on the dedication of the same. These are primary sources per WP:PRIMARY and expanded in WP:PRIMARYNEWS. They tell us when the school was built, so it is good and reliable information, but they do not count towards notability. There are other mentions in newspapers that I found but all primary. Scholar turns up:
 * Nestor, M., (1974) Human relations in literature. The English Journal, 63(2), pp.66-68.
 * House, P., (1970) The implementation of a modular schedule as a means to individualizing instruction in a small secondary school (Doctoral dissertation, Kansas State University).
 * Fey, J.A., (1981) The Effects of Personality, Sex and Learning Style on Nonverbal Sensitivity. Cornell University.
 * Nestor (1974) is not independent and the mention is trivial (article written by a teacher). House (1970) is excellent though. It uses the school as an example of a school that implemented a modular programme as a result of being a small school in a rural community. As such it somewhat indicates why this school seems not to be notable (small and rural), but constitutes a significant secondary source that contains quite a lot of information that could go into the article. See especially chapter 4, page 16. Fey (1981) seems trivial. It is talking about someone who taught arts and humanities there in the 1970s, but the article is about the person, not the school and this is just a touch of detail. Google books search throws up handbooks, directories and a bunch of hits that appear unrelated.
 * So, in summary, we have one excellent secondary source. Primary sources don't count towards notability and secondary sources should be multiple. The thesis is not widely cited, so we don't have evidence yet that this fully meets GNG. Nevertheless it is clearly a significant catholic school that has an innovative programme to serve the needs of multiple rural communities. It has been established since the 1960s, and at least two of its teachers are also mentioned in reliable sources. My feeling is this one probably does cross GNG, although I have not (yet) founded the two extra secondary sources that would put this beyond doubt. I'd also consider a redirect if a suitable target were proposed. I don't think it should be deleted. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment. At the very least, a summary should be merged to Elgin, Nebraska. wjematherplease leave a message... 23:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to meet WP:GNG. Very few secondary schools in the western world do not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per both of Necrothesp’s comments. We get so many Indian high school articles deleted for lack of notability; I don’t disagree with these decisions but I wish there was more reliable coverage so we could keep those, too. — A. B. (talk • contribs •  global count)  17:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above comments. The proffered sources are sufficient.  Eluchil404 (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)


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