Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porno Graffitti


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, but a merge is clearly needed. It's already tagged. -Splash talk 00:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Porno Graffitti
The article is pretty much all song lyrics, has nothing to do with the band itself, and probably a copyright infringement by posting the lyrics on the article in the first place. Cernen 00:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I considered turning it into a brief stub using information from this fanpage, but the information there seems a bit unreliable (at least as a primary source) and the band itself doesn't seem to fulfill WP:MUSIC. Their website, however, seems rather professional and might upgrade them to notable status, but I can't read a word of Japanese.  Snurks  T  C 03:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, based on the comment below, since the band certainly seems to fit WP:MUSIC based on having more than two releases on a major label. Needs a complete overhaul of the article, though.   Snurks  T  C 03:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - I only recently registered an account (I have edited for some time on an ip address), so it might not be appropriate for me to vote on an AfD, but Porno Graffitti does meet WP:MUSIC. They have released multiple albums on Sony, which is a certainly a major label. (See this website.)  On the other hand, I would totally agree that the song lyrics ought not to be included in the article.  There is also a fair deal of information on the band here.  I think this article could easily be turned into a legitimate encyclopedia article. NoIdeaNick 02:53, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - Just because Porno Graffiti isn't American and you may not have heard of it, I assure you it's big in Japan. Hell, their song was the first theme music for Full Metal Alchemist, which was the premier anime at the time of its airing.  As to the article itself - its quality is quite crappy.  It needs major work, but it doesn't need to be deleted.  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 04:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete current one-sentence stub, but recreate if more can be said. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - 131,000 Google hits is notable enough in my book.  Blackcats 04:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. This is currently a speedy delete candidate as a short article with little or no context. Would vote to keep decent stub. Capitalistroadster 04:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - and note that this was the name of a famous album as well. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy  Darwikinian Eventualist 05:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I've added a cross-reference to the album Pornograffiti by Extreme. Chris talk back 13:44, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I wonder if I'm allowed to comment on whether or not it should be deleted. -tries anyway- I vote keep and I do so because I just threw a stub tag on the end for music groups...I -could- throw in the band member names. While not the original author of the article in question...well...Nick's source does have a fair deal of information, but it might not be worth using; it has a few names and a discography, but that's about all. If the spirit of the wiki is "come, let us add stuff to this stuff to make it good stuff instead of just stuff," then leave it alone, tell people, "Hey, we don't know much, perhaps y'all could help us out," and watch the article blossom? Feh...I'm beginning to wonder if I should be commenting in the first place. Worth a shot, anyway; be bold and all that. Cernen 10:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have decided to retract my previous statement. Toss it. Cernen 05:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge from Porno Graffitti (band). Also, is there a barnstar for nominating an article should be deleted, then arguing for keeping, then voting delete again, and then changing your mind again to favor a merge? Or do my qualifications for speaking dumbass cover me? Just curious. Cernen 07:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge from Porno Graffitti (band). Kamezuki 18:56, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge from Porno Graffitti (band). Very important band on J-pop scene with widespread name-recognition. - Naif 05:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.