Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Porsha Williams


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) HistoricalAccountings (talk) 23:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Porsha Williams

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The article fails WP:GNG and lacks significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. The person is a secondary reality tv personality, has only appeared in 'The Real Housewives', and lacks any sufficient resume, significant occupation, or media coverage outside of the show. If we are to create WP articles for every single folk on reality shows like Real Housewives, The Apprentice, Big Brother, etc there would be thousands of them. Bionic (talk) 11:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2021 January 20.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 11:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. Among sources cited in the article are People, The Huffington Post, CNN, ABC News, and Entertainment Television. AngelOfDestiny (talk) 14:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The issue is not just about the sources cited in the article, it's about the content & adequate notability according to WP:BLP. None of the media coverage discusses the person from an outside-real housewives perspective. Bionic (talk) 15:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Comment: It appears (at least to me) that Porsha has received media coverage outside of her role on RHOA. Her activism in the Black Lives Matter movement has received coverage, which includes a New York Times article (here) and a BET article (here). Aoba47 (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Firstly, that happened only recently and it's a very minor part of the article. secondly, that is not outside of her role on "RHOA" either, that's part of the show's storyline. Bionic (talk) 10:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I was answering your question asking for an example of coverage outside of RHOA. I do not consider her BLM activism to be solely a RHOA storyline. It may be recent, and it is currently only a small part of the article, but it does show that this individual has received coverage on something outside of her appearances on a reality show. However, I will obviously respect whatever the consensus is at the end. Aoba47 (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I will actually strike my vote and leave it as a comment. I said earlier this month that I would be retiring from Wikipedia so I should really step away before falling down the rabbit hole again lol. I hope that my comment is helpful even if consensus forms against keeping this article, and this was an interesting discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 03:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I am not very familiar with the deletion policy for BLP, but I am seeing considerable amount of films/shows this person has been involved in, so I think the subject should be notable for a standalone article. HĐ (talk) 01:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That's actually not true. As you can see on the filmography section, a considerable amount of roles is nowhere to be found. Only a few cameos & appearances as herself. Bionic (talk) 10:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:SIGCOV. While I am not familiar with this person, and don't normally watch reality television, it appears that her roles are significant enough that she has received substantial coverage in reliable sources. She also has 720,400 followers on Twitter, which indicates a fan base; a quick roll through our mutual follows shows that she is followed by dozens of real people whom I know, rather than mere bots. I think our core readership might be looking for this article. Bearian (talk) 20:13, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * But where are those 'significant roles'? I don't see them anywhere. She only has had a few cameos & appearances as herself, and the number of followers on social networking sites is not the criterion to have a standalone WP article. There are random people with millions of followers on social media, should we have an article for each one of them as well? Bionic (talk) 10:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, I never heard of her before, and a quick survey of my (White) friends shows not a single one ever heard of her. On the other hand, she seems to have quite the base of fans. That's all. Bearian (talk) 18:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northern Escapee (talk) 05:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep As per above, passes WP:SIGCOV. Setreis (talk) 08:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable per WP:SIGCOV.  --Kemalcan (talk) 11:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.