Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Portable hole (Dungeons & Dragons)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Portable hole. Merge per consensus of discussion participants. (non-admin closure) Striker force Talk 15:26, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Portable hole (Dungeons & Dragons)

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Tagged for citation improvement for four years. There was one reference, which I removed because it was total garbage. Everything here is WP:OR. My guess is a lot of it could be sourced to the various rule books, but those are WP:PRIMARY sources. I guess this should redirect to Portable hole per WP:ATD. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:01, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TMGtalk 17:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. TMGtalk 17:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge to Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons) - I suppose it is a matter of opinion as to whether the Geek.com link that was removed it valid or not, but I think that could be merged. BOZ (talk) 17:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Portable hole, which is a more congruent target, and which already discusses this. bd2412  T 17:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to portable hole per bd2412. Seriously, how does WP have TWO articles on this topic? —  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 19:32, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Selective Merge to portable hole; none of the existing content appears to be sourced and most of it doesn't need to be merged. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 20:22, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added some detail to Portable hole that I could reference to reasonably solid sources (although, I actually suspect both of those are copyvios of the original books). I can't find anything else that's well sourced, and adding much more to Portable hole would generatge WP:UNDUE issues, so I think this is about as much as we can do.  -- RoySmith (talk) 20:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * PS, if somebody also wants to add something to Magic item (Dungeons and Dragons), I have no objection, but the same concern about merging unsourced material applies there.  -- RoySmith (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge to Magic item (Dungeons and Dragons). Vorbee (talk) 07:35, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to portable hole and update the link already extant in Magic item (Dungeons and Dragons) to point to a new section there. The D&D usage of a portable hole is a specific case, and distinct enough from other fictional portable holes to merit a section. Also, undid removal of sole reference--it's not appropriate for a nominator to remove a non-abusive reference and then nominate an article for deletion.  It may be a borderline reference, but that's for the discussion to decide, not for the nominator to prejudice by removal. Jclemens (talk) 08:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to portable hole per above discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Portable hole. It might also need mention at Magic item (Dungeons & Dragons); don't set up a false dichotomy here.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  14:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.