Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Portugal Golden Visa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. But needs a complete rewrite.  Sandstein  21:57, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Portugal Golden Visa

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Portugal promotion Atsme 📞📧 17:26, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to add that a Visa program for a country should be added to the respective country's WP article, not as a stand alone article which makes it appear purely promotional. Atsme 📞📧 01:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:37, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * comment The subject itself may be notable. The programme is widely known, at least here in Portugal, mostly because there have been some investigations and some top level public administration were detained (news, from 2014, at observador.pt) on suspicions on making some money on the side while granting them. Later on the then Ministry of Internal Administration (Portugal), Miguel Macedo resigned his office. A trial is to start next monday (2017-02-13)(news, today, at publico.pt). The Golden Visa by themselves are probably a minor administrative proceeding, and the current article is, as nominated, merely promotional. So, expand is the first option, or delete, the current content is merely promotional, as nominated. Nabla (talk) 10:05, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:10, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep A GNews search indicates that WP:GNG is met. Deletion is not cleanup also comes to mind.  Schwede 66  09:04, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * comment - it's certainly worthy of mention in Portugal, but does it warrant being a stand alone? It's solicitation as a stand alone.  Just my thoughts....Atsme 📞📧 22:09, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * To answer your query,, if it meets GNG, then a stand alone article is warranted.  Schwede 66  07:46, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Schwede66, but I'm of the mind the article is promotional in a commercial sense - described as an "investment scheme" - therefore, has questionable encyclopedic value. I see little difference in this VISA program and most tourism promotions, all of which are promotional marketing. Atsme 📞📧 09:02, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it is NOT worth of mention in the Portugal article. At most it should be linked from some article linked from some article (linked from some article...) linked from Portugal. That is, having it in the main article would be undue weight, even for the scandal involving a ministry and top administrative people (sorry, I can't find the correct English words right now). Nabla (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * please consider my initial "comment" as a "delete, without prejudice for recreation", unless someone expands it (for myself I am sick of the continuous stream of scandals of this guy robbed that to take the time to write about this one - plus, scandals is far from "my thing" over here :-) - Nabla (talk) 19:47, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a simple delete response would work *Delete? Regardless, point taken. Atsme 📞📧 20:02, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * keep, passing by i found temporary resident redirected to temporary residency in Canada and thought that should be generalised to some sort of list or comparison of temporary residency rules around the world. See work in progress that might be relevant to this and other pages.MfortyoneA (talk) 18:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * comment - I agree that the Canadian article is encyclopedic as it provides information about temporary residency. It is not a promotion.  The article in question here actually is an undeniable promotion, and states that it is a promotion and is written like a promotion: The Portugal Golden Visa is the Portugal residency program to promote people to move and live in Portugal.  That is not at all like the Canadian explanation of temp residency.  My concern is that if WP allows these marketing promotions to stand, it will open a can of worms. Atsme 📞📧 19:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep the article addresses an aspect of a country's immigration policy. We have plenty of this on US policy. I agree that the article could be better, but I think it's more substantive policy than promotion.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)


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