Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poso Pesisir language


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The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Pamona language.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 10:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Poso Pesisir language

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To quote another editor who I asked to take a look at this, "Coastal Poso simply is a dialect of the Pamona language predominantly spoken by Muslims in the Coastal Poso area, and it differs from the interior Pamona variety spoken around Tentena (= the prestige dialect) as much as the Black Country dialect differs from Brummie English. There is no WP:SIGCOV about the Coastal Poso dialect that would justify a standalone. And there is not a single source among the references cited in that new content fork that treats this dialect as a distinct language." Fails WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge with Pamona language GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested above. Mccapra (talk) 06:29, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge, but carefully pruned for factual errors and made-up stuff not mentioned in the sources. I have fixed the most blatant ones. –Austronesier (talk) 09:43, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested and is reasonable. Languages in the Austronesian languages family can be so close that basic words in Tagalog, Malay, and Ilokano are mutually intelligible cognates, while their glossaries can also be distinct. I recall that President Obama's mother wrote about this phenomenon. Bearian (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, this is not about obvious cognacy between related languages. Tagalog, Malay, and Ilokano are very much not mutually intelligible; it is just easy to tell for the layperson they're related from a few identical words. That's nothing special about Austronesian languages: I can say in the Moselle Franconian dialect of German, which sounds exactly like the corresponding sentence in an English variety with TH-stopping. OTOH, Poso Pesisir is almost identical to the central dialects of Pamona in every respect. There is literally more linguistic variation among Mid-Atlantic US English dialects compared to that. –Austronesier (talk) 20:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge properly sourced material with Pamona language, unneeded CFORK with a good target that will be improved after the merge.  // Timothy :: talk  17:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


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