Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Possible successors to Pope John Paul II

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE, which has already been implemented by User:RedWolf. Postdlf 01:57, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Category:Possible successors to Pope John Paul II
Delete, Now that the new pope is elected this Category should be deleted. Candidates who were considered are mentioned in the following article. Papal conclave, 2005 --DuKot 17:16, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Nominator forgot to add to the VfD log; adding today. --cesarb 16:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. I agree. That article mentions all the former papabiles. D. G. 00:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete'. Now there is only one successor, and no "possbile successors".  2005 conclave article will remember who the other possibilites were judged to have been sufficiently.  Rlquall 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Invalid nomination. Categories should go to CFD, not VFD. Please withdraw your nomination here and nominate it for deletion there. --cesarb 16:13, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete. We might need a Category:Possible successors to Pope Benedict XVI, though.   &mdash; J I P | Talk 17:32, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as invalid nomination &rarr; CFD  &mdash;msh210 17:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. The speculation as to who would succeed Pope John Paul II is itself a notable historic fact. I don't see it on the referenced Papal conclave page. (see below) -- 8^D gab 18:16, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)
 * Delete,I can't seem to edit the CFD entry on my browser.The Ben XVI Successors category is already up,I've migrated some JP II successors younger than a couple I already saw there to the new one.A rename would be inappropriate though,as anyone older than Benedict no longer is viable.--Louis Epstein/le@put.com/12.144.5.2 01:01, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Save the data!
''Since I can't find any discussion on CFD, I'm writing this here; if I've overlooked a better spot, would somebody please copy? Thanks.''

Before this category is permanently consigned to the electro-magnetic dustbin of history, somebody should check to make sure that everybody listed in it is included in List of papabili in the 2005 papal conclave. Doops 19:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I have added the three names to the list that were in the Category but not on the list. Since the list of papabili now contains all of the same information, I am changing my vote to Delete. -- 8^D gab 20:35, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)


 * Delete. But we should list it in CfD; It shouldn't be deleted without going through the proper process. Andrewa 01:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Now listed at Categories_for_deletion. No change of vote. Andrewa 01:14, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * As the criteria for deletion in CfD is weaker for empty categories whose information has laready been put elsewhere, if it passes deletion on VfD and is empty, it can be speedy deleted from Cfd. (I notice, however, it isn't empty, so either someone will have to empty it, or the bot on Cfd will eventually get around to it.) --ssd 04:38, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Agree. IMO emptying it before the vote closes on CfD does not violate Categories for deletion point #4, as there's a strong consensus to delete both there and here, and that makes it "uncontroversial" IMO. Just so long as we all now know the procedures, and the crowd who hang out on CfD (and know the pitfalls of category deletion best) have had a chance to look at what's happening, I'm happy. No change of vote. Andrewa 09:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete - the info should be elsewhere, either Papal conclave, 2005 or otherwise. We don't have categories for "Possible US presedential candidates 1788", or "Possible League Of Nations Secretaries]] or other historical elections.  Now that this Papal election is historical, the same argument applies.  --Bletch 16:10, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.