Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Postage (album)


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to either delete or redirect. Daniel (talk) 22:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Postage (album)

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I haven't been able to find any coverage on this album minus the Amplifier article in the references (which are broken) and said website seemed to be a now-defunct music shop/distributor, so I'm not particularly sure how much I'd consider that a reliable source; the only other mention of this album I've been able to find right now was in a list of their discography. Darling ☔ (talk · contribs) 22:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Music,  and New Zealand. Darling ☔ (talk · contribs) 22:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Supergroove: The Amplifier article (archived here) has a good bit to say on this album. I don't know enough about the site to judge whether it's reliable or not, but without any bylines and the likelihood that those articles are just unedited press releases, it doesn't look great. Regardless, it's not enough on its own, and I couldn't find anything else supporting notability. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 12:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment I don't know to what extent the following support keeping the article, but they are probably worth consideration for people making votes:


 * The album won an award for best album cover in New Zealand's major music awards event.
 * The "album debuted at number 10 on the New Zealand Album Chart, remaining in the Top 20 for four weeks, and the Top 50 for seven weeks going gold a week after release", as noted in the above-linked article (which is a press release, to be clear, though from the awards ceremony rather than directly from the band or label).
 * The New Zealand Herald gave it a 4-star review (with a byline!). --superioridad (discusión) 07:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep, after thinking some more about the info in my comment above. I say that an album with independent sources (a) that review it, (b) that verify that it is award-winning, and (c) that verify that it is gold-certified is a notable album, and notable enough to merit an article. I have also found three additional reviews that are not on the publicly searchable web, but that anyone with a relevant database subscription can confirm:


 * The Waikato Times, 30 October 2003. Within a music review column titled "The Wrap". Reviewer: Tracey Chapman. Verdict: 2/5.
 * The Southland Times, 25 October 2003. "Supergroove show huge talent". Reviewer: Phil McCarthy. No numerical verdict afaict; positive in tone.
 * New Zealand Truth, 31 October 2003. "Still just can't get enough of band called Supergroove". Reviewer: South Kristian. No numerical verdict afaict; positive in tone.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith Talk to me 23:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * --superioridad (discusión) 04:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep, I'm inclined to being swayed by the reviews mentioned above. The charting positions should be possible to confirm independently of a press release. Geschichte (talk) 09:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The official website of the NZ music charts, a website of Recorded Music NZ has archives going back that far, and it gives these chart positions:
 * 2-8 November 2003, No. 10
 * 9-15 November 2003, No. 10
 * 16-22 November 2003, No. 15
 * 23-29 November 2003, No. 19
 * 30 November-6 December 2003, No. 26
 * 7-13 December 2003, No. 44
 * 14-20 December 2003, No. 36
 * It is also marked as a Gold-certified album on those same pages. --superioridad (discusión) 03:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


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