Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pot Roast (cat)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 07:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Pot Roast (cat)

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No lasting coverage, all sources come from the same week or so and focus on the cat's death. See WP:BLP1E/WP:ONEEVENT; the article also fails to show any real notability or significance of one of many briefly famous Internet cats. SilverTiger12 (talk) 21:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:37, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment NBC News has a piece about the cat, not sure we count cat streamers as notable. Oaktree b (talk) 22:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  Analysis of the sources  Pot Roast, a cat from Kansas City, Missouri, died on 16 February 2022. Pot Roast was profiled in The Pitch on 24 May 2021, which is eight months before her death. This shows that at least one source provided significant coverage about Pot Roast and was not about her death. After Pot Roast died, she received substantial coverage in numerous articles including in international sources like The Independent and the Toronto Star and in national sources like NBC News, HuffPost, and People. The article in the Toronto Star is an especially strong source that contains detailed analysis and commentary about the cat. This satisfies Notability (events). Pot Roast subsequently received significant coverage over six months after her death in NBC News, The Pitch, and Junkee. This satisfies Notability (events).  Sources   Article published before the cat's death:  The article notes: "Pot Roast the cat went from being hidden in a sorority house to being TikTok famous. Her owner, whose name has been rescinded for privacy reasons, found Pot Roast during a college finals week her sophomore year in 2014. ... She ended up paying to stay a full two hours with Pot Roast and had someone drive her to the animal shelter immediately after the event in hopes of adopting her. PRO says the shelter was willing to let her adopt Pot Roast for only $20 and all of a sudden PRO was a cat mom."   <li>Articles published six months or more after the cat's death:<ol> <li> The article provides 169 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "Pot Roast was a toothless, black-and-white cat, who captured the heart of the internet with her laid-back personality, messy eating and assorted health problems. She grew to prominence on the account @PotRoastsMom, where her owner, who publicly identifies only as "Pot Roast's Mom," introduced her to the world. The account had more than 1.2 million followers. ... In the wake of Pot Roast's death in February, Pot Roast's mom was harassed and criticized for using jokes and dark humor to cope with the loss of her pet. That led to discussions about how followers on social media create parasocial relationships with the people and animals they see online. Since Pot Roast's passing, Pot Roast's Mom has adopted two new cats: Soup and Coupon. </li> <li> The article notes: "A year after the death of Kansas City’s feline TikTok celebrity, Pot Roast’s Mom is taking stock of her life and setting new boundaries with her online community. Pot Roast’s Mom (whose name will remain anonymous for privacy reasons) has been creating TikTok videos since January 2021, most of which starred the legendary Pot Roast until her death in Feb. 2022. She has 1.2 million followers on TikTok and 144,000 on Instagram. " </li> <li> The article provides 81 words of coverage about the subject and her owner. The article notes: "Pot Roast took the world by storm during the height of the pandemic. Unfortunately, Pot Roast passed away earlier this year, and many were worried they'd never see Pot Roast's Mom on the platform again. After Pot Roast's passing, her mom took some time before fostering new kittens. She eventually adopted one of them, amply named Faucet. She has been sharing their daily lives since, with a sprinkle of her own humor and Faucet's cute antics, making them a perfect pair." </li> <li> The article provides 217 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "In February 2022, a black and white cat who had been diagnosed with feline immunodeficiency virus, or FIV, passed away. Pets dying, while devastating for the owners who love them, is not an uncommon occurrence – their lives are tragically much shorter than human ones, after all. What makes this example unique is the storm that followed. The cat, whose name was Pot Roast, had garnered a sizable TikTok following, and fans on the app eagerly awaited regular updates on their favourite internet famous cat. When Pot Roast passed away, her mother, known online as Pot Roast’s Mom, was bombarded with messages from strangers unimpressed with how she handled her cat’s health concerns." </li> </ol></li> <li>Articles published within three months of the cat's death:<ol> <li> The article notes: "I try not to pick favourites when it comes to pets, but Pot Roast the cat always held a special place in my heart. Toothless and ungroomed, with food debris often stuck in the fur under her chin, seven-year-old Pot Roast was best described as scraggly. Some even referred to her as a taxidermy cat in the sense that she didn’t appear healthy enough to be alive — indeed, she had several health issues, including feline herpes, autoimmune disease, allergies and stomatitis that necessitated the removal of her teeth and made her stop self-grooming. I was charmed and inspired by her refusal to die." </li> <li> The article notes: "Pot Roast was a toothless black-and-white cat who was beloved on TikTok for her assortment of hats and messy eating habits. She had survived several health issues as a kitten, and many found her scraggly appearance endearing. After her unexpected death last month, fans were heartbroken. Some went as far as taking their grief out on Pot Roast’s owner, who had been harassed over Pot Roast’s health long before the cat became sick." </li> <li> The article notes: "Pot Roast, TikTok’s most loved cat, has died following ongoing health issues, her owner has confirmed. In a video shared to the platform, her owner announced that Pot Roast had died at 1.47am on Wednesday 16 February. ... Pot Roast’s health had been declining in recent weeks after she tested positive for feline immunodeficiency virus, an infection which attacks the cat’s immune system." </li> <li> The article notes: "Over the last year, Pot Roast and her owner captured the attention of millions on TikTok with their quirky personalities. The account has garnered more than 953,000 followers since its conception." </li> <li> The article notes: "One TikTok user, Pot Roast's Mom, who shared videos of her scruffy cat, went viral during Winter 2020. But the vast audience she reached is now mourning the passing of Pot Roast the cat. ... The Kansas City-based TikToker regularly reached millions of viewers through clips of Pot Roast wearing cute or comical garb, the pet owner petting the happy cat, and syncing the cat's actions with music like many other TikToker creators do with music videos. Throughout the years of regular posts, Pot Roast's Mom was able to show TikTok viewers the calm and playful nature of the adopted cat while she was alive." </li> <li> The article notes: "On Feb. 16 the beloved cat's owner (who has never revealed her name for privacy reasons) shared that the popular TikTok personality had passed away following a battle with feline immunodeficiency virus." </li> <li> The article notes: "Ironically, Pot Roast became popular on TikTok for her appearance: Many people apparently thought she was dead or taxidermied, which her owner played up." </li> <li> The article notes: "Pot Roast — a cat named after the “very special dish” served on “very special occasions” because her owner wanted to gobble her up with affection — has died. The fluffy black and white feline was a TikTok star thanks to her human’s funny videos that poked fun at the pet she very clearly adored." </li> <li> The article notes: "Pot Roast as a cat would be someone I would follow and adore from afar. Pot Roast’s Mom is the element that made this whole situation viral. PRM is one of the most bleakly hilarious performers I have ever known. She matched a disgruntled feline to videos with songs, digitally accompanied narratives, and gentle snapshots of life—most always delivered with a combination of dirt dry sarcasm and, somehow, overwhelmingly supportive positive vibes. Pot Roast was not a cat on the internet. Pot Roast was a cat that seemed to belong to all of us. I spent enough time with videos of Pot Roast over the last few years that, would she have crossed my path at The Pitch offices, I would not not have been surprised. And then we lost her." </li> <li> The article notes: "Pot Roast had become a celebrity on the social media app, with videos receiving more than 64 million likes total and a following of nearly one million, The Independent reported. Pot Roast’s owner had documented the cat’s declining health, and in a post on Feb. 8 explained that Pot Roast had been diagnosed with Feline Immunodeficiency Virus." </li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Pot Roast to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 09:30, 9 May 2023 (UTC) </li></ul>


 * Comment: Pinging, who removed the proposed deletion. Cunard (talk) 09:30, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep based on the extensive source analysis above. I'd not heard of the animal before today, welcome to wikipedia, kitty. Oaktree b (talk) 19:47, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep based on source analysis above. Seems to have substantial lasting coverage at multiple outlets over several months, I think that qualifies for notability. Invisiboy42293 (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Clearly the coverage is there. Good case not made for WP:BIO1E. ~Kvng (talk) 14:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


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