Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pothohar Sultanate


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. In the absence of solid sources, I am deleting this. If at a later point in time sources crop up, this can be undeleted by any admin. Randykitty (talk) 12:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Pothohar Sultanate
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The page previously used British-era texts which I removed as per the consensus for Raj-era sources. Now the page has been renamed as the "Pothohar Sultanate" which seems to be an entirely fictional title as a search on Google Scholar, JSTOR, Books etc shows that no such polity by that name has ever existed. For this reason, as the article's name is completely fictional and the article is unsourced, I propose that it be deleted. Ixudi (talk) 16:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Punjab.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. The sources do refer to the rulers of Pothohar as Sultan. A Sultan, according to majority of the dictionaries, is the sovereign of a Sultanate or a Muslim state. Lightningblade23 (talk) 11:15, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unsourced, may even be a hoax161.69.71.25 (talk) 11:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. Early revisions of the article refer to it as the "Gakhar kingdom" and later "Gakhar sultanate". Where does the name "Pothohar" for the entity come from? Looking into the name of their ruler, Muqarrab Khan, I was able to find a few scholarly sources.
 * Doing the same for Google books brings up some results as well. Also found this article, and while it probably isn't the best source it does cite more citations than are worthy looking into.
 * All in all, it does seem like a state did exist here but it seems unclear to me if the polity ever even had a name or not, but at least to me "Gakhar" seems more accurate of a name than Pothohar. Pladica (talk) 02:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You are correct. An article already exists for Gakhar however so either the contents of this article should be merged into Gakhar or considering this is unsourced, deleted entirely and details of the Gakhar state added into the original article perhaps? Ixudi (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Doing the same for Google books brings up some results as well. Also found this article, and while it probably isn't the best source it does cite more citations than are worthy looking into.
 * All in all, it does seem like a state did exist here but it seems unclear to me if the polity ever even had a name or not, but at least to me "Gakhar" seems more accurate of a name than Pothohar. Pladica (talk) 02:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You are correct. An article already exists for Gakhar however so either the contents of this article should be merged into Gakhar or considering this is unsourced, deleted entirely and details of the Gakhar state added into the original article perhaps? Ixudi (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. There's no sourcing available or on the way. I'm not merging or redirecting without some form of RS. Better to start over with sources when found. BusterD (talk) 15:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.