Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PowerPlay Manager


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. Fram (talk) 15:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

PowerPlay Manager

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Article about a web based game that hasn't released a game yet. The article has ited its notability by being on the fr and sv wiki's as well however the sv article was created by the same individual who created this article and the fr has also been tagged for lack of notability. There are no secondary sources illustrating notability. –– Lid(Talk) 09:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC) I don't understand why suddenly there is a warning for deletion of the English version, while the French version a warning it should be verified and there is nothing at the Dutch version. Why is every admin deciding so differently in those different languages while the content of all the texts is the same. Maybe it should be open for discussion with other admins before just adding a deletion mark on that page. If you don't like the content, we shall be flexible in some way. And I ask myself the question why we should be commercialising a product that isn't yet ready/selling?
 * Delete: Fails WP:N and WP:WEB. By the way the speedy request could have been reinserted as the author removed. --JD554 (talk) 12:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

This page will be translated into 35 languages and I am sure all the admins will react differently. Make one discussion for all the languages. It would be stupid to block 10 and let 25 be online. These pages are being translated as I speak, I hope you can reconcider your thoughts or at least help us by pointing out the parts that are Over The Top.

Thank you--Vjeetje (talk) 21:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I believe the English version of the article should be deleted because I don't believe the game is in anyway notable as there are no reliable secondary sources to assert any notability and it doesn't meet any of the criteria for notability as WP:WEB. --JD554 (talk) 09:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Why all the fuss about PPM? There are many games who have page on wikipedia. For example Hattrick, online soccer manager,...--81.83.226.52 (talk) 17:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC) Ok, so if we delete all the dates and numbers; then all information is reliable right? And you can verifie everything on the powerplaymanager site! Thank you--81.83.226.52 (talk) 13:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC) We try to write this article as neutral as possible and all data can be verified at the homepage! I really don't understand why it is so hard to add this game with more than 35.000 players to wiki. P.S.: we had a general check and changed some parts to be more conformable.--Vjeetje (talk) 16:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no reliable sources to establish notability -- Whpq (talk) 17:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lack of media coverage - not sufficiently notable for inclusion. Addhoc (talk) 16:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You seem to be applying your own definition of of "notable". Please read WP:N for Wikipedia's definition. --JD554 (talk) 19:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I have read the article. If you consider those rules, the Hattrick page on wikipedia is full of violations of these rules: http://en.wikipedia.org/Hattrick I quote the first paragraph: "Hattrick (also known internally simply as HT) is an online, browser-based, football management game (MMOG) developed in Sweden. Currently the game contains 118 different countries, each with its own league pyramid, and 42 different language versions (Since October 20, 2007). As of August 2007, the game had over 960,000 users, each with their own team.[1] Hattrick is in its 34th season and has been running since August 30, 1997.[2] Most users cite Season 11, which began October 15, 2000, as the beginning of Hattrick as it is today."--Vjeeje (talk) 21:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because there may be some rubbish on Wikipedia that needs deleting doesn't mean we should allow more. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS --JD554 (talk) 22:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Can someone give me a specific tip that can help me further to approve the content. Or does the content doesn't matter but the project PowerPlay Manager, that can not be included into wikipedia. I'm really eager to help to keep this article alive, thx!--Vjeetje (talk) 22:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


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