Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prairie Lights


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The result was   keep. Or nomination withdrawn, take your pick (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Prairie Lights

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Simple bookstore without notability; it asserts importance, to be sure, but there are no good sources. Google reveals some thirty thousand sources when searching "Prairie Lights", but all I saw were (1) sites associated with the bookstore, (2) tangential references, or (3) bits from local newspapers that aren't enough to confer notability. Nyttend (talk) 01:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: article was prodded two years ago, but prod was removed by author. Nyttend (talk) 01:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't think the fact that the book store is located on "the site of a coffee house that had in the 1930s hosted a local literary society and its guests" confers notability, no matter how notable the guests were. Seems fairly clear advertising and little notability.  Theseeker4 (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: per WP:CORP. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 01:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote changed to keep: per sources found. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 12:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep You guys need to reread the article. It's a notable bookstore, in a notable and historic location, and the site of notable radio and literary events. No way is this a delete. Needs a little clean-up, but it's not even bad in that respect. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How is it a notable bookstore? Nyttend (talk) 12:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, substantial independent book stores have some inherent notability (not enough for inclusion just based on that, but it's a start) as cultural centers. This one has a 30 year history and happens to be in a historic location with literary roots. But if that's not enough it's also where: "WSUI in Iowa City broadcasts "Live from Prairie Lights", a series of readings by authors appearing at the store; among others, actor Mike Farrell, and authors Michael Chabon and Daniel Mason appeared on the program in 2008.[1]". So it's clearly notable, in my opinion, although the article could use more citations and a bit of editing. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There absolutely are sources to prove notability; I can find them in a Google search. For some reason, it just hadn't been done sufficiently with this article. I've added some sourced info to attempt to help the notability issue, and will continue to search for sources. Raven1977 (talk) 01:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per references added by Raven. I would call for this to be closed now, as I want to withdraw it, but having two delete votes makes this (as far as I can see) ineligible for speedy keep.  Nyttend (talk) 02:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Found abstracts of several more reliable source references:
 * Drum, C.S. "Prairie Lights books: A beacon in the Midwest." Publishers Weekly 235.14 (07 Apr. 1989): 95.
 * "Untitled." Publishers Weekly 240.46 (15 Nov. 1993): 30. Abstract: Reports on the promotional campaign of Prairie Lights Bookstore in Iowa City, Iowa, entitled `Hooks and Books.'
 * Parisi, Joy. "Coffee in a literary tradition." Publishers Weekly 241.37 (12 Sep. 1994): 22. Abstract: Reports on the bookstore cafe, called the Times Club, in the Prairie Lights bookstore in Iowa City, Iowa.  --Captain-tucker (talk) 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)




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