Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prentiss Oakley


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The result was   redirect to Bonnie and Clyde. Keeper |  76  03:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Prentiss Oakley

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Fails notability. Outside of being one of the lesser known sheriff's deputies that took part in the killings of Bonnie and Clyde, there is nothing else that establishes notability for this person. The other deputies involved have had articles deleted or redirected to the main article and this one is no different. The only deputy who has sufficient notability was Ted Hinton, who authored a book on the subject. This article is essentially orphaned and has had no content addtions for over 2 years, there is nothing to suggest there will be additional content available to add. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. The information is available, and I will try to help with this.Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: In that Oakley fired the shots that killed Clyde Barrow, wouldn't that alone establish notability? I will try to find when he was sheriff. I have put in references, links, and worked on the syntax.Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Response: I don't know that there are any sources that definitively conclude that Prentiss Oakley fired the shots that killed Clyde Barrow. The only source you've put in this article is from a book published 30 years ago and then a comment by Hinton's son 65 years later, quoting his dad. Meanwhile, the coroner's report does not specify what weapon fired the shots that killed Barrow or what the order was, only that there were numerous shots and injuries. I don't think there is enough confirmatory evidence to retain an article based on the possibility that he might have fired the shot, when there is very very little else out there that would support that. As I noted, outside of being part of the posse, there is nothing to confirm notability beyond taking part, while articles for other members of the posse that did not write a book have all been redirected to the main article. Wildhartlivie (talk)


 * Keep and expand. Even if he is merely a lead candidate for having killed Barrow, that strikes me as notable enough. - Vartanza (talk) 03:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC).
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO and protected redirect to Bonnie and Clyde. Clearly unnotable on his own terms. Eusebeus (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, the book alluded to came too long after the fact and the other officers had died. This throws the light of suspicion to personal motives for claims. Impossible to determine death shot. Future evidence is open for reconsideration.


 * Delete, I don't see that his notability is proven by the possibility that he may have been the one who fired the killing shots. He's part of the Bonnie and Clyde story even by his presence when they were killed, but that's about all.  A redirect would suffice. Rossrs (talk) 13:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as NN. I assume that elected US sheriffs as mere local officials do not qualify as notable (but am willing to stand corrected).  If so, the only noteworthy event is the killing of Bonnie and Clyde.  The appropriate action might be to redirect to their article, but that might look stange.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ONEVENT and redirect to Bonnie and Clyde. A protected redirect is warranted due to the history of reversions. momo  ricks  04:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: I have found another sheriff involved with Bonnie and Clyde who has his own Wikipedia story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holt_Coffey Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC) Someone removed this note after I placed it.Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe it was removed because of a question regarding its relevance to this AfD. That other stuff exists is not a valid argument for the retention of something that does not meet the weight of individual notability. I have the same reservations regarding this article you found as I do with this one. A number of persons who were involved at one given point in a crime spree, even someone shot or a law officer who was present once, does not meet the weight of individual notability in the absence of other distinguishing events. WP:ONEVENT covers that article and this one. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.