Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Presiding Officer of the United States Senate


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was No consensus to delete, you can talk about making it a dab page or redirect on the talk page. Kotepho 15:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Presiding Officer of the United States Senate
There is no such office. See talk page. John Nagle 19:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment This article resulted from an entry in the Glossary on the U.S. Senate site, where there is an entry for "presiding officer". But that's not an office.  There is no actual office of "Presiding Officer".  Formally, the President of the Senate (the United States Vice President) presides over the Senate, but usually, he leaves it to the President Pro Tempore, which is an actual office held by a Senator, who in turn, often designates some other Senator to do the job for a day.  When it's a designated senator, the Congressional Record refers to them as the "Acting President Pro Tempore".  The term "Presiding Officer of the United States Senate" is sometimes used to refer to the Vice President, though. --John Nagle 19:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, there's no such office. Why can't there be an article about the person who's sitting up in that chair?  Other articles may link to it thusly: "…A Senator wishing to speak must get the attention of the Presiding Officer, who will then promptly ignore him because he didn't say 'Mother may I?' The Senator may appeal the ruling to the President of the Senate .…"  The United States Senate website actually refers to that person as the "Presiding Officer" so I wasn't going to change the title of the article.—Markles 20:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. It may not be a constitutionally-established office, but it does refer to an actual person - the VP, the president pro tem, or the acting president pro tem.  If the term is used on the official website, then I think we're entitled to use it here.  Tevildo 20:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is already covered in United States Senate and I can't imagine a need for a separate article unless there's a heckuva lot more to say about the matter. BigDT 21:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand While it's not an official title, it is a position. I feel that the term is a notable one, and it should be expanded upon. The fact that the position is not necessarily held by a particular person means that it should not be a redirect or a merge; even if the info presented is little more than a dicdef, I think it deserves its own WP article. -- Kicking222 21:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect to President of the Senate, Vice President of the United States or maybe President Pro Tempore. --Danielrocks123 23:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate to United States Senate, President of the Senate, Vice President of the United States, President Pro Tempore plus any other appropriate target, with some well-written statements regarding the many different people that could occupy this office. This dab could prove quite useful to an 8th grader writing a paper or an essay on the US Senate.  young  american  (talk) 01:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Blow up the over-sized template, the external link, and the intro sentence, and convert the last sentence into a simple list-style pointer to President of the Senate, Vice President of the United States, and President Pro Tempore. --Calton | Talk 04:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand as per Kicking222. Fipe 09:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tevildo, though the article definitely needs expanding. --WinHunter (talk) 00:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Calton. Sorry Guy 23:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.