Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prestige Academy of Motion Pictures


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. BJ Talk 07:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Prestige Academy of Motion Pictures

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Unreferenced article. Would be expected to easily pass WP:N but fails WP:V. I suspect it is a hoax. No ghits other than Wiki-related, for searches such as "Prestige Academy" Virginia, Prestige "Excellence in motion pictures" or PAMP Awards. Not listed on IMDB's awards page. I am nominating the individual year pages as well. Tassedethe (talk) 11:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because if the main page goes then obviously these pages must go:


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   —Tassedethe (talk) 12:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I performed various searches myself, and was amazed how many sites refer to Wikipedia as the source for awards on different actors. This cleanup for this article, if they are deleted, will require a large scrubbing of Wikipedia to clean up all references on the actor pages. The article has a long history of being actively edited, yet I can't find a single source indicating the website of the Prestige Academy. Very strange stuff. Still looking. Turlo Lomon (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not being listed in IMDB's awards page is not a disqualifier, as IMDB does not list many verifiable current film awards per their own statement made when trying to submit an award not on their list: "Please note that we are not currently accepting new events, only awards for existing events." For instance, they won't accept "Webby Awards" even for very notable filmmakers... and the Webby definitely passes WP:V, WP:N, and WP:RS. But that is a problem with IMDB and not Wiki. However, and that aside, There is absolutely no evidence that the Prestige Academy of Motion Pictures or the Prestige Academy of Motion Pictures Awards exist. Article created in January 2006 by one editor who then added the award to a number of other articles and who returned to wiki only 2 more times over the next 2 years to bombard the WikiBase with more similar wikilinks.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * SPEEDY Delete and salt... with haste and with prejudice. This is a hoax that has finally come to light. The original article was created on January 2006. IF this award and institution were real, there would have been something written somewhere over the following 2 years that would have supported its existance. More investidgation of the wiki cross-links must be done to learn just what type of false notability Kyliecrazy12 was trying to prove and for whom.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: There are only 1 2 username s associated with major contributions to these articles, as well as 4 anonymous IP's: User:NWill, who has done a tremendous number of edits over the past 2 years, himself contributed to it in April of 2006 and created several of the false "awards pages". User:Kyliecrazy12 has made no other edits except for contributions to the hoax articles. If not the same person, these two accounts are linked through actions.
 * Accounts contributory to the hoax:
 * User:Nwill
 * Kyliecrazy12
 * Supportive single-use anonymous IP's:
 * 70.174.13.187 IP traces to Atlanta node
 * 70.175.12.3 IP traces to Atlanta node
 * 70.174.14.16 IP traces to Atlanta node
 * 198.82.110.44 IP traces to Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State Univ.
 * One has to study the edit histories to see the connection, as the information is probably too old for a checkuser verification, but I believe the evidence is extremely compelling.
 * And I have to stress that User:NWill has made many contributions to Wikipedia both before and since his contributions to this possible fraud... so I do not know what an Admin might do.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Had to stike User:NWill as complicit in this hoax. His additions to Wiki Film have beem exemplary. I believe any contributions he made toward Prestige Academy of Motion Pictures and its sister articles were made in the most absolute assumption of good faith.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Further strike. Good faith edits do not make one culpable  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Further news: Because there are a number of sites that have copied this information from Wikipedia... Nationmaster.com, Answers.com, Powerset.com, Freebase.com, Bookrags.com, etc. The PAMP article is generating a false notability as its "awards" are being connected online with major stars and films that never received any such thing: Nicole Kidman, Youtube.com (in the Nicole Kidman honors section), Brokeback Mountain, Million Dollar Baby, Clint Eastwood, etc., etc., etc. It seems every time I check, some other otherwise WP:RS has included the informations as created on Wiki, with no proof that PAMP ever existed other than its article on Wiki as a WP:HOAX in violation of WP:N, WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:GNG.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Total delete There is no supporting evidence to keep this here. MarnetteD | Talk 05:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is not a single news reference, address, website or outside source independent of the WP article. Complete hoax. All references to this page in other WP articles should be deleted as well. Cactus Writer 06:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is just as unverifiable and as oft-quoted as United World Chart, which finally bit the dust (as far as Wikipedia is concerned) about five months ago. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 20:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wow, why isn't this SD? --Danorton (talk) 14:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * SPEEDY DELETE AND PAGE-PROTECT - AAH!  Limetolime  Talk to me • look what I did! 20:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


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