Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Preston Dunn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Majorly  (o rly?) 22:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Preston Dunn

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Individual is non-notable. Page creator seems to be making a practice of creating Wikipedia articles that are simply obituaries of non-notable individuals. Mwelch 23:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Individual is not notable per WP:N and Wikipedia is NOT for memorials.  Mwelch 23:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unfortunately, and possibly copyvio from lubbock news (registration required) &rArr;    SWAT Jester    On Belay!  23:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * delete non-notable freemason. Pete.Hurd 02:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable by 66 combat missions, three Distinguished Flying Crosses, and nine Air Medals, successful businessman, college student body president, Pioneer of the Year in his county. There are at least two articles in the Clovis, New Mexico, newspaper (in 2005 and after his death) about Mr. Dunn.

Billy Hathorn 05:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, "notable in Portales", a town of 11,000, speaks for itself. -- Dhartung | Talk 06:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a population limit on where a notable person may come? Is there a place for local history on Wikipedia?

Billy Hathorn 16:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. It's not about how small is the population from which they come.  It's about (how many times does this need to be said?) their overall notability, per Wikipedia's policies.  k.d. lang, for example, is from a town of about 650, if I recall correctly.  Her overall notability is nonetheless unquestionable.  Ronny Cox is apparently from this same town that Preston Dunn is.  No one is questioning the notability of Ronny Cox.  Preston Dunn, on the other hand . . . is on just not notable.  Local history on Wikipedia?  What is wrong with right here? Mwelch 21:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Three DFCs and nine Air Medals. If he had spent those four years playing for the Boston Red Sox, pitched nine shutouts against the dreaded Yankees and appeared in three All-Star games, I'm sure that Mwelch would never have nominated this article for deletion. But because Preston Dunn did something so mundane as risking his life for his country, he is judged to be "not notable." It is a sad, sad commentary on the values of the average Wikipedia editor. Justin88 01:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. Your personal attacks upon me don't change the fact that he doesn't meet a single WP:BIO requirement.  Of course I would not nominate him for deletion if he spent four years playing for the Red Sox, pitched nine shutouts against the Yankees and appeared in three All-Star games . . . because he then clearly and unequivocally would meet the requiremens of WP:BIO.  So since you apparently have no policy-based reasoning to offer, feel free to direct your future values-based personal attacks to the makers of Wikipedia policy. Thanks. Mwelch 01:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Follow-on comment. For anyone following this who might be more interested in actually addressing Wikipedia polices on military medal winners than in just hurling around insults at fellow editors, you  may want to consider bringing up the subject at the talk page of WP:BIO.  Prveious discussions viewbale in that talk page's archives indicate a sentiment than an award such as the Medal of Honor would satisfy notability, but that "lesser" awards would not.  But if anyone thinks there is a legitimate case to be made for those "lesser" awards being sufficient for notability, then that talk page might be a good place to do so. Mwelch 22:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.