Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pride (comics)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  05:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Pride (comics)

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The article is pure plot, with no real-world info. Despite the huge background info provided here, the truth is that this super-villain team was used for just 2 or 3 story arcs of Runaways (comics), and that's it. They hardly need more mention than in the parent article's plot section. Aside from very minor trivial mentions (and unlike the Runaways themselves), those characters have not been used at any other comic books since then. Cambalachero (talk) 18:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails Notability (fiction). Comiccruftspam. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 21:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - minor group with minor impact. The bit about one of the members appearing unnamed in a film is weak, and belongs on the character page anyway. Not even worth redirecting. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Let the page stay. They are the major enemies of the Runaways as well as being related to them. Plus, Alex Wilder has formed a new incarnation of the Pride that has some of Luke Cage's enemies amongst it's membership. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:10, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Being major enemies of a team in a good-but-not-super-successful comic book doesn't make them notable. At best, this could be redirected to Runaways, but anyone searching for this specific term would presumably be aware of that page already. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:10, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * We might see the Pride in live action appearance when "Runaways" comes to Hulu. Plus, Geoffrey Wilder is the only one that has his own page. Where on the Runaways page would they be placed even if it ends up being on the section for their Rogues Gallery? Plus, the Pride also had an encounter with Iron Man. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Potentially appearing in a live action adaptation means they are potentially notable. Guessing that they will be is WP:CRYSTAL. If they do appear, then they can be discussed on Runaways (TV show). They're already mentioned throughout the Runaways page 15 times, and I don't think any merging is needed. I'm glad to hear they met Iron Man, but that doesn't grant them notability either. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course I also discovered an alternate version of the Pride that was created by the Prime Evil in Codename: Genetix issue #3. If the page stays, they will be listed in the "Other teams called Pride" section. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per Cerebellum below, or merge to Runaways (comics). BOZ (talk) 21:39, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I found significant coverage from Screenrant, the AV Club, and this book.  --Cerebellum (talk) 01:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't view the screenrant or AV Club links (internet filter), but the Joss Whedon book you link is hardly "significant coverage". The group is mentioned, but only 1) in a fictional context with no real-world discussion and 2) in direct reference to the actual topic - The Runaways. Based on the URLs and the snippets Google shows me, the other two links are also primarily about the Runaways and aren't focused on the Pride. Any info they include would fit just fine on the Runaways page. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The AV club article is basically the same as the Joss Whedon book, discussion of the Pride with the Runaways as the primary topic. The screenrant article has about 400 words at the end specifically about the Pride.  To your points, 1) that's a good argument. I prioritize the GNG above MOS:WAF, so I think a topic can be notable without real-world discussion, but you're right that all the sources lack real-world discussion.  2) The primary topic is the runaways, but as the GNG says "significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic." --Cerebellum (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cerebellum. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:13, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  11:30, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep: The article is not beyond repair by normal editing.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 01:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: As TripleThreat said, the article can be repaired and Cerebellum listed decent coverage. -- S talk / contribs 18:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


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